From: roland@perry.uk 
  
 In message , at 20:58:26 on Thu, 4 Sep 
 2025, s|b  remarked: 
 >On 3 Sep 2025 11:14:56 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: 
 > 
 >> I would welcome it as long as it's done properly and produces a reliable 
 >> and foolproof result, which means absolute positive proof of identity when 
 >> it is issued. 
 >> 
 >> One day it will be in an RFID chip in our arms. 
 > 
 >Belgium has had a so-called eID (plastic ID card with RFID chip) and we 
 >can use it for CSAM (e-government; yes, I know the acronym is poorly 
 >chosen). We are obligated to have this eID on us at all time since the 
 >age of 12. 
  
 Even on a nudist beach? How does that work... (Or maybe there aren't any 
 in Belgium) 
  
 >Starting in 2019 fingerprints are added to this RFID chip. There was 
 >some protests, even official complaints, but GBA (data protection 
 >authority) ruled it wasn't an invasion of our privacy, even though it 
 >makes you feel like a criminal. 
 > 
 >What they do is scan 4 fingers on each hand and then some company picks 
 >out the 1 finger on each hand that has 'the best result', because the 
 >law states 'only 1 fingerprint of each hand'. This same company stores 
 >those fingerprints until your actual eID is manufactured and then it 
 >transfers those prints to the RFID on the eID. It then (supposedly) 
 >deletes all the fingerprints. In theory, they don't keep the prints 
 >longer than 3 months. Complicated, but hey, that's Belgium 'ensuring our 
 >privacy'. (BTW the police is able to view those prints on the RFID.) 
 > 
 >You can try and refuse to let them take your prints or use superglue on 
 >your fingertips, but no fingerprints, no eID, no access to all 
 >government sites (taxes, pension, unemployment, ...) and other places, 
 >so it's not really an option. 
 > 
 >But if that is where you want to go... 
 > 
 > 
 >* Aaaand I'm just reading this: 
 >le-from-november-2026/> 
 > 
  
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 Roland Perry 
  
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