From: aero.spike@mail.com
Martin Harran wrote:
> On 3 Sep 2025 10:15:20 GMT, Spike wrote:
>> With the news today that a mandatory so-called Digital ID Card is being
>> considered by the government, on the grounds that it will discourage
>> illegal migration by making it harder to such migrants to get jobs,
perhaps
>> we should look back to the last time ID cards were compulsory and see just
>> how intrusive they became and how they were used for extra-judicial
>> harassment by minor State functionaries such as local government and the
>> police, finally coming to the fore in the Harry Willcock case.
>> It has been said that the defining characteristic of Socialist governments
>> is the equal spreading of misery, and this latest ID scheme punishes us
all
>> for the sins of the illegal immigrants.
> How are ID cards a *punishment*?
Look back to the last time we had ID cards, with petty officials, the
police, and others peremptorily demanding ID simply because they could.
Plus the huge mission creep, of course. Little wonder that Harry Willcock
made a stand.
Starmer is talking it up today saying that things have moved on in the last
20 years, we all carry digital ID (do we really?), so essentially it isn€€€t
an imposition.
So everybody will have to carry either an ID capable phone or whatever
device it might be that the phoneless get foisted on them, at their
expense, of course.
> Are the people of the many countries
> who already have them being collectively *punished*by their
> governments?
It depends on the effectiveness of the checks and balances that are put in
place, always assuming there are any, and whether they are enforceable in
fact.
Will digital ID cards stop the current wave of shoplifting? Or burglaries?
Or the hundred other crimes that now don€€€t get investigated?
PS: I can remember my National Identity number€€€
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Spike
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