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  Msg # 142 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Tuesday 8-25-25, 1:02  
  From: OWEN REES  
  To: NORMAN WELLS  
  Subj: Re: The White House could end UK's decad  
 From: orees@hotmail.com 
  
 Norman Wells  wrote: 
 > On 24/08/2025 15:03, Owen Rees wrote: 
 >> Jethro_uk  wrote: 
 >>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:58:23 +0100, Max Demian wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 23/08/2025 12:08, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:02:39 +0000, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> Nowadays, processors contain hardware to generate truly random numbers 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> But do they ? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Answer came there none. 
 >>> 
 >>> Huh ? 
 >>> 
 >>>> Surely there would have to be specialist hardware to do this. 
 >>> 
 >>> Not following. Sorry. 
 >> 
 >> TPM 2.0 contains a random number generator according to the documentation 
 I 
 >> have seen. The Apple Secure Enclave also has a random number generator. 
 >> 
 >> It seems likely that any computer or smartphone that is less than five 
 >> years old has a hardware assisted random number generator. Older machines 
 >> may have one but if you care, you would need to check. 
 >> 
 >> There are descriptions online for those who want the details of what it 
 >> takes to be a random number generator suitable for cryptography. 
 > The thing about cryptography, though, is that encoded messages that are 
 > sent need to be decrypted at the other end, so need to have some method 
 > in their madness to unlock them. 
  
 I suggest that you do the basic search for the uses of random numbers in 
 cryptography and the various kinds of randomness. 
  
 In particular you should understand the use of nonces. 
  
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