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  Msg # 134 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Tuesday 8-25-25, 1:02  
  From: NORMAN WELLS  
  To: ROGER HAYTER  
  Subj: Re: Lucy Connolly's martyrdom  
 From: hex@unseen.ac.am 
  
 On 24/08/2025 18:17, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > On 24 Aug 2025 at 16:33:26 BST, "Jon Ribbens"  
 > wrote: 
 >> On 2025-08-24, Jethro_uk  wrote: 
  
 >>> TL;DR is that the right to free speech. Like *all* rights in law is 
 >>> qualified. 
 >> 
 >> I wouldn't say "all". The right against torture for example is 
 >> completely unqualified. 
 > 
 > Unfortunately for Norman's penal theories 
  
 Actually, you're quite wrong again. 
  
 If only you'd done a little research instead of baldly stating what you 
 just know off the top of your head, you'd have discovered Section 134 of 
 the Criminal Justice Act 1988, which says: 
  
 "(4) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under 
 this section in respect of any conduct of his [ie inflicting severe pain 
 or suffering] to prove that he had lawful authority, justification or 
 excuse for that conduct. 
  
 (5) For the purposes of this section €€€lawful authority, justification or 
 excuse€€€ means€€€ 
  
   (a) in relation to pain or suffering inflicted in the United Kingdom, 
 lawful authority, justification or excuse under the law of the part of 
 the United Kingdom where it was inflicted". 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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