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From: martinharran@gmail.com
On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 19:32:30 +0000, The Todal
wrote:
>On 04/11/2025 19:08, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:15:13 +0000, JNugent wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/10/2025 02:05 pm, The Todal wrote:
>>>> On 31/10/2025 12:22, Roger Hayter wrote:
>>>>> On 31 Oct 2025 at 11:51:26 GMT, "The Todal"
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/10/2025 10:22, Martin Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> In the light of recent events involving the residence of the Andrew
>>>>>>> formerly known as a prince I have a question about voiding his lease.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our village hall is also on a 25 year lease with a peppercorn rent
>>>>>>> (although the peppercorn is a bit bigger at £35 p.a. to cover admin
>>>>>>> costs). The terms of the lease appear to state that provided that we
>>>>>>> look after and maintain the building and don't use it for illegal
>>>>>>> purposes or cause a public nuisance the owner grants us a long fixed
>>>>>>> term of 25 years (previous ones were 50 years each).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we fail to keep it in tenantable condition then the landlord has
the
>>>>>>> right to engage contractors to sort it out and charge that to us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, as far as I can see unless we engaged in criminal activities
>>>>>>> *on* the premises or caused a serious public nuisance to our
neighbours
>>>>>>> (also their tenants) it is ours to use for the full 25 year lease.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What clause have I missed that allows it to be voided by the
landlord?
>>>>>>> IANAL so I can't rule out having missed some clever form of words.
>>>>>>> I had to have "tenantable condition" explained to me by our
solicitors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So my main question is: how has the King forced his brother out of
what
>>>>>>> is very probably a water tight fixed term lease on Royal Lodge?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or is that a prerogative of being an absolute monarch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Andrew's lease in the public domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be absolutely wonderful if Andrew sued the King for breach of
>>>>>> contract and for a declaration that his lease is valid and cannot be
>>>>>> terminated without his consent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With all the real problems faced by our nation and by the world I find
>>>>>> it incredible that the media are so preoccupied with the humiliation
of
>>>>>> Andrew and the King's supposedly sensible and courageous decision to
>>>>>> deprive Andrew of his title and hereditary honours. Just in time to
>>>>>> forestall any decision in the House of Commons which might have given
>>>>>> the impression that Charles is on the back foot, unable to make
>>>>>> decisions about his family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is really nothing less important than Andrew losing the title of
>>>>>> Prince (the artist formerly known as Prince) and losing his big house.
>>>>>> It's a soap opera to distract the plebs from more important issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If and when Andrew commits suicide because of the public disgrace,
what
>>>>>> will be the press and public reaction then? Will he become the
Prince
>>>>>> of Hearts and will acres of bouquets be laid in the grounds of
>>>>>> Sandringham? Or will the verdict be "good riddance, if I'd had my way
>>>>>> he'd have had his head chopped off". So perish all royal princes who
>>>>>> fuck prostitutes and keep undesirable company with unscrupulous rich
>>>>>> playboys. Is it now time for someone to deprive Trump of the title of
>>>>>> President and move him out of the White House?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought we had come to realise that vulnerable young women
>>>>> trafficked and
>>>>> sexually exploited were not primarily "prostitutes" so much as
>>>>> victims? Or
>>>>> does this analysis only apply when the exploiters are Pakistanis?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You make a valid point.
>>>>
>>>> Conversely, it is no longer fashionable to see prostitutes as inevitably
>>>> the victims of coercion, threatened with violence by pimps, longing to
>>>> be rescued from their plight as fallen women and rehabilitated into a
>>>> more worthy way of making a living. Objects of pity. William Ewart
>>>> Gladstone used to wander the streets and befriend prostitutes and pray
>>>> with them in the hope that they would see the error of their ways and
>>>> return to a more respectable way of life, perhaps as housemaids or
cooks.
>>>>
>>>> Virginia Giuffre was a victim of sexual abuse long before she met
>>>> Epstein, and she was therefore vulnerable and susceptible to
>>>> manipulation. But very well rewarded financially by Epstein. Many women
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