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 On 04/11/2025 19:08, Martin Harran wrote: 
 > On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:15:13 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 31/10/2025 02:05 pm, The Todal wrote: 
 >>> On 31/10/2025 12:22, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>>> On 31 Oct 2025 at 11:51:26 GMT, "The Todal"  
 wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On 31/10/2025 10:22, Martin Brown wrote: 
 >>>>>> In the light of recent events involving the residence of the Andrew 
 >>>>>> formerly known as a prince I have a question about voiding his lease. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Our village hall is also on a 25 year lease with a peppercorn rent 
 >>>>>> (although the peppercorn is a bit bigger at £35 p.a. to cover admin 
 >>>>>> costs). The terms of the lease appear to state that provided that we 
 >>>>>> look after and maintain the building and don't use it for illegal 
 >>>>>> purposes or cause a public nuisance the owner grants us a long fixed 
 >>>>>> term of 25 years (previous ones were 50 years each). 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> If we fail to keep it in tenantable condition then the landlord has 
 the 
 >>>>>> right to engage contractors to sort it out and charge that to us. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> However, as far as I can see unless we engaged in criminal activities 
 >>>>>> *on* the premises or caused a serious public nuisance to our 
 neighbours 
 >>>>>> (also their tenants) it is ours to use for the full 25 year lease. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> What clause have I missed that allows it to be voided by the landlord? 
 >>>>>> IANAL so I can't rule out having missed some clever form of words. 
 >>>>>> I had to have "tenantable condition" explained to me by our 
 solicitors. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> So my main question is: how has the King forced his brother out of 
 what 
 >>>>>> is very probably a water tight fixed term lease on Royal Lodge? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Or is that a prerogative of being an absolute monarch? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Is Andrew's lease in the public domain? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> It would be absolutely wonderful if Andrew sued the King for breach of 
 >>>>> contract and for a declaration that his lease is valid and cannot be 
 >>>>> terminated without his consent. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> With all the real problems faced by our nation and by the world I find 
 >>>>> it incredible that the media are so preoccupied with the humiliation of 
 >>>>> Andrew and the King's supposedly sensible and courageous decision to 
 >>>>> deprive Andrew of his title and hereditary honours. Just in time to 
 >>>>> forestall any decision in the House of Commons which might have given 
 >>>>> the impression that Charles is on the back foot, unable to make 
 >>>>> decisions about his family. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> There is really nothing less important than Andrew losing the title of 
 >>>>> Prince (the artist formerly known as Prince) and losing his big house. 
 >>>>> It's a soap opera to distract the plebs from more important issues. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> If and when Andrew commits suicide because of the public disgrace, what 
 >>>>> will be the press and public reaction then?  Will he become the Prince 
 >>>>> of Hearts and will acres of bouquets be laid in the grounds of 
 >>>>> Sandringham? Or will the verdict be "good riddance, if I'd had my way 
 >>>>> he'd have had his head chopped off".  So perish all royal princes who 
 >>>>> fuck prostitutes and keep undesirable company with unscrupulous rich 
 >>>>> playboys. Is it now time for someone to deprive Trump of the title of 
 >>>>> President and move him out of the White House? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I thought we had come to realise that vulnerable young women 
 >>>> trafficked and 
 >>>> sexually exploited were not primarily "prostitutes" so much as 
 >>>> victims? Or 
 >>>> does this analysis only apply when the exploiters are Pakistanis? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>> 
 >>> You make a valid point. 
 >>> 
 >>> Conversely, it is no longer fashionable to see prostitutes as inevitably 
 >>> the victims of coercion, threatened with violence by pimps, longing to 
 >>> be rescued from their plight as fallen women and rehabilitated into a 
 >>> more worthy way of making a living. Objects of pity. William Ewart 
 >>> Gladstone used to wander the streets and befriend prostitutes and pray 
 >>> with them in the hope that they would see the error of their ways and 
 >>> return to a more respectable way of life, perhaps as housemaids or cooks. 
 >>> 
 >>> Virginia Giuffre was a victim of sexual abuse long before she met 
 >>> Epstein, and she was therefore vulnerable and susceptible to 
 >>> manipulation. But very well rewarded financially by Epstein. Many women 
 >>> would regard her as a very underserving recipient of royal compensation. 
 >>> She was, objectively, a prostitute. It is said that she recruited other 
  
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