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 On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 22:50:14 +0000, The Todal  
 wrote: 
  
 >On 04/11/2025 22:13, Martin Harran wrote: 
  
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 >>> How about a more commonplace example: friendship with a good friend or 
 >>> family member who was in trouble with the police for downloading 
 >>> indecent photographs of children? And who was in huge distress because 
 >>> it meant the end of his marriage and his career and his contact with his 
 >>> children, and a likely prison sentence? 
 >>> 
 >>> Would your friendship be wholly dependent on hearing a form of words 
 >>>from him that satisfied you that he repented of his actions? 
 >> 
 >> First and foremost, I would want to be certain that he is no longer a 
 >> threat to children. 
 >> 
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 > 
 >Fair enough - but how would you know whether he ever was a threat to 
 >children and, if he was, how he could no longer be a threat? 
  
 OK, "certain" was a careless choice of word, one can never be certain 
 about such things., all we can do is make a judgement call. In my 
 case, that would be based on the remorse that they show and the 
 commitment they show about not repeating the behaviour. I would be 
 conscious of it being a judgement call and would watch the situation 
 carefully in case I had got it wrong. 
  
 > 
 >This isn't a hypothetical question - I have been in that exact position 
 >in real life. 
  
 A tough one, always hard to know what is the right thing to do in such 
 situations. 
  
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