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 On 05/11/2025 12:57 pm, Martin Harran wrote: 
  
 > On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 12:05:31 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 >> On 05/11/2025 07:04 am, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>> Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>>>> Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>>>> The Todal  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>>>>> [...] 
 >> 
 >>>>>>>> what was Andrew's especially heinous action? Seemingly, continuing 
 his 
 >>>>>>>> friendship with a convicted sex predator. 
 >> 
 >>>>>>> *continuing* seems the most significant part of this. 
 >> 
 >>>>>> I don't see why any of us should cast off friends who fall foul either 
 >>>>>> of the law or of public opinion. 
 >> 
 >>>>> As a Christian, I certainly believe in forgiving those who do wrong 
 >>>>> provided that they face up to their wrongs and commit themselves to 
 >>>>> stopping the behaviour. Feel free to point out where Epstein showed 
 >>>>> any of that. 
 >> 
 >>>> Who said anything about forgiveness? 
 >>>> It's about friendship and compassion. Forgiveness lies right outside 
 those. 
 >>> 
 >>> On what basis do you think Andrew's continuing relationship with 
 >>> Epstein was about friendship and compassion? 
 >> 
 >> I was not discussing a particular case. 
 >> I am talking about a principle. 
 > 
 > You seemed to be applying that principle to the Epstein case, are you 
 > now saying you aren't seeking to so apply it? 
  
 Never mind trying to twist my words. It won't work.> 
 >>>> Is friendship a purely transactional arrangement for you? 
 >>>> What if it were your brother? 
 >>>> Would it still be "Never darken my door again; you are dead to me"? 
 >>>> Would Christ have done that, d'you think? 
 >>>> "Let he who is without sin...". 
 > 
 >>> Yet again I am amused at how people who have no regard for the Bible 
 >>> seem to think they are expert on it. 
 > 
 >> What's that supposed to mean? 
 >> Are you denying that the quotation is absolutely relevant to what is 
 >> being discussed? 
 > 
 > Selective Bible quotations are rarely meaningful on their own and are 
 > mostly resorted to by those who have no regard for the Bible, thinking 
 > that it somehow make them look clever. 
  
 Dear me... 
  
 See my other post nearby. 
  
 ALL quotations are selective (ie, selected). 
  
 Should I have copied'n'pasted the whole of the New Testament instead? 
 >> Or that I have it all wrong? 
 > 
 > I suspect you get very little right about the Bible. 
  
 Ad-homs already, eh? :-) 
  
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