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 On 04/11/2025 04:20 pm, Jethro_uk wrote: 
  
 > On Tue, 04 Nov 2025 13:41:32 +0000, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 04/11/2025 10:40 am, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>> The Todal  wrote: 
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 >>> [...] 
 > 
 >>>> what was Andrew's especially heinous action? Seemingly, continuing his 
 >>>> friendship with a convicted sex predator. 
 > 
 >>> *continuing* seems the most significant part of this. 
 > 
 >> I don't see why any of us should cast off friends who fall foul either 
 >> of the law or of public opinion. 
 >> At such times, they may need friends more than ever. 
 > 
 > Not sure I could be so sanguine were  friend to rape someone. Or murder 
 > someone. Or fleece pensioners of their life savings. 
 > 
 > Although as a wag might say, they don't need you to be their friend, they 
 > just need you to vote for them. 
  
 I wonder whether you actually understood my meaning. 
  
 I was not claiming that those things would be acceptable. Only that 
 there are also other, countervailing forces in our lives. 
  
 But a moment's reflection should make you re-examine the position you 
 described. Many murderers are nowadays eventually released from custody. 
 Are they "unclean" and unworthy of ever having meaningful human contact, 
 even with family and former friends? 
  
 Don't misunderstand me - I'd certainly say "Yes" about some of them, but 
 then, they wouldn't be anyone to whom I was related or with whom I'd 
 been a friends since primary school or university. 
  
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