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 > On 04/11/2025 16:30, Norman Wells wrote:> The Todal  
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 > >   > He is experiencing very public disgrace and being virtually> 
 ostracised by his family. Obviously he will feel shame. Wouldn't  you? 
  
 > > For what exactly?  Why do you seem so reluctant to be specific? 
  
 > I think this may be a question of semantics.If you were stripped naked, 
 placed in the stocks in your town and everyone came to jeer at you and 
 throw rotten vegetables at you, I think what you would be experiencing 
 would be "shame". What other word can 
 you think would be more appropriate? Or has your imagination failed you? 
  
 It rather depends on whether I'd done anything illegal.  If not, 
  I'd be angry and resentful.  As I think anyone would. 
  
 Do please say specifically what he is supposed to have done that 
  warrants the supposedly shameful punishment that has been meted 
  out to him.  Don't be shy any more. 
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