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 On 05/11/2025 07:04, Martin Harran wrote: 
 > On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 18:15:18 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 04/11/2025 04:08 pm, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>> On 04/11/2025 10:40 am, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>> The Todal  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>> [...] 
 >>> 
 >>>>>> what was Andrew's especially heinous action? Seemingly, continuing his 
 >>>>>> friendship with a convicted sex predator. 
 >>> 
 >>>>> *continuing* seems the most significant part of this. 
 >>> 
 >>>> I don't see why any of us should cast off friends who fall foul either 
 >>>> of the law or of public opinion. 
 >>> 
 >>> As a Christian, I certainly believe in forgiving those who do wrong 
 >>> provided that they face up to their wrongs and commit themselves to 
 >>> stopping the behaviour. Feel free to point out where Epstein showed 
 >>> any of that. 
 >> 
 >> Who said anything about forgiveness? 
 >> 
 >> It's about friendship and compassion. Forgiveness lies right outside 
 those. 
 > 
 > On what basis do you think Andrew's continuing relationship with 
 > Epstein was about friendship and compassion? 
  
 Andrew and Fergie probably had in mind gratitude for favours previously 
 rendered, maybe hope that the good times might continue one day. I think 
 they would have done well to have taken advice from public relations 
 consultants. This wasn't just yet another billionnaire chum being fined 
 for tax evasion. 
  
 > 
 >> 
 >> Is friendship a purely transactional arrangement for you? 
 >> 
 >> What if it were your brother? 
 >> 
 >> Would it still be "Never darken my door again; you are dead to me"? 
 >> 
 >> Would Christ have done that, d'you think? 
 >> 
 >> "Let he who is without sin...". 
 > 
 > Yet again I am amused at how people who have no regard for the Bible 
 > seem to think they are expert on it. 
 > 
  
 I am amused at how well known words and phrases from the Bible 
 inevitably have very different meanings depending on whether the speaker 
 is a priest or a mere peasant. 
  
 The devil can cite scripture for his purpose. (The "devil" in this 
 context being Shylock, the Jew) 
  
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