From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Roger Hayter"  wrote in message 
 news:5021176862.39e37d59@uninhabited.net... 
 > On 18 Sep 2024 at 09:38:03 BST, ""billy bookcase""  wrote: 
 > 
 >> 
 >> "Roger Hayter"  wrote in message 
 >> news:7374280838.beaa3c81@uninhabited.net... 
 >>> 
 >>> Like the inverse American grammatical error, debate someone rather than 
 debate 
 >>> with someone. 
 >> 
 >> Harry boxed Larry, Harry raced Larry (athletics), Harry played Larry 
 (tennis) 
 >> Harry debated Larry 
 >> 
 >> Harry and Larry were direct opponents in a contest 
 >> 
 >> Where "with" is synonymous with "against" 
 >> 
 >> Harry boxed with Larry, Harry raced with Larry, Harry played with Larry, 
 Harry 
 >> debated 
 >> with Larry. 
 >> 
 >> Both Harry and Larry were members of the same boxing, athletics, or tennis 
 >> club or debating society - but never necessarily opposed one another 
 >> 
 >> Where "with" is synonymous with "alongside" 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> bb 
 > 
 > Try doing the same with "argued". 
  
 As with boxing, athletics, and tennis, the point about debating is that 
 it's a 
 recognised activity having its own clubs and societies; and is subject to 
 specific rules. 
  
 Unlike "arguing" which may amount to little more than people shouting at one 
 another, 
 waving their arms about, or even throwing things. 
  
 Which is why there are no "Arguing Societies" or "Arguing.Clubs". 
  
  
  
 bb 
  
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