From: littlelionne@hotmail.com 
  
 On 17/09/2024 20:25, Tim Jackson wrote: 
 > On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:23:59 +0100, Pamela wrote... 
 > 
 >> Nor can someone be "fleeing war" if they left the war zone two years ago 
 >> and have been living safely elsewhere. 
 > 
 > If they have *settled* somewhere for two years already, the Refugee 
 > Convention and the UNHCR both agree with you. 
 > 
 > However, living in a refugee camp is not settling. 
 > 
 > Incidentally, in the few cases where they had indeed already settled in 
 > another EU country, this used to mean we could send them back there 
 > under the EU Dublin Regulation.  But then we left the EU without 
 > negotiating a replacement returns agreement. 
 > 
 >> Furthermore, most of the small boat illegas have already been refused 
 >> asylum after having their case assessed by various European countries. 
 > 
 > Your evidence for this? 
 > 
  
 I have no idea about "most" but certainly "some" - I have from time to time 
 seen 
 reports where they cheerfully admit to having ben denied asylum in, say, 
 Germany, so having another go (where it wil be harder to chucked out). 
  
 As it has been suggested that other countries have even better benefits 
 than we 
 do, it would make sense to ty them first I suppose. But not many tell the 
 newspapers. 
  
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