From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 12/08/2025 01:23 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > On 12 Aug 2025 at 10:34:51 BST, "Norman Wells"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 12/08/2025 08:27, Jeff Gaines wrote: 
 >>> On 12/08/2025 in message  Norman Wells 
 >>> wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 12/08/2025 00:52, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>>>> On 11 Aug 2025 at 22:57:38 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" 
 >>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> My original point was simple, there was a news article saying that 
 >>>>>> government was planning to put together legislation in respect of 
 >>>>>> Islamaphobia and I asked why not have general legislation against all 
 >>>>>> forms of race/religious hate instead of coming up with legislation 
 >>>>>> after 
 >>>>>> the event each time. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> That question has not really been answered. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Ok, let me ask a counter-question; seeing we already have generic 
 >>>>> anti-discrimination legislation which may be insufficient to protect 
 >>>>> some particularly vulnerable groups, why not bring in specific 
 legislation 
 >>>>> to deal with practical problems those groups are having now? It's not 
 going 
 >>>>> to harm people who don't currently suffer much if any discrimination. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Because that would in itself be discriminatory.  It places some in a 
 >>>> more privileged position than others. 
 >>> 
 >>> And I believe the current situation does that to at least some extent, 
 >>> there is no reason not to treat everybody the same. 
 >> 
 >> The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which the UK is a 
 >> signatory, provides in Article 7: 
 >> 
 >> "All are equal before the law and are entitled without any 
 >> discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal 
 >> protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration 
 >> and against any incitement to such discrimination." 
 > 
 > But equal protection implies greater effort to protect those at most risk? 
 It 
 > usually does.  We devote little effort to protect billionnaires from child 
 > poverty, for instance. There are any number of welfare benefits to which 
 > billionnaires are not entitled. Gross discrimination, you may say? 
  
 Do we give billionaires much assistance in scraping the bottoms of their 
 rain butts? 
  
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