From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "The Todal"  wrote in message 
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 > On 10/08/2025 16:28, Andy Walker wrote: 
 >> On 10/08/2025 11:31, JNugent wrote: 
 >> [...] 
 >>> But even apart from that sort of semi-organised stuff, there was> still a 
 >>> recognisable residual anti-Jewish attitude in Britain among 
 >>> the older generations, though it was certainly fading. It was normal 
 >>> to hear (overhear) the term "Jewboy" from people you might have 
 >>> thought more measured than that. 
 >> 
 >>  An elderly neighbour was wont, in my childhood, to use the 
 >> term with no pro- or anti-Jewish significance whatsoever. Any cute 
 >> baby was "Oh, what a pretty jewboy!", with the same sort of meaning 
 >> as "little angel" or "cherub". I don't know how common that usage 
 >> was, but I'm tolerably sure that she would have been horrified to be 
 >> told "You can't say that!", as if she had used a swear-word. [She 
 >> would have known about the Holocaust, but would simply not have 
 >> associated "jewboy" with Jewishness.] 
 >> 
 > 
 > I've been watching, for the first time, the excellent Grananda TV 
 adaptation 
 of 
 > "Brideshead Revisited". I recommend it to all. 
  
 Especially Phoebe Nicolls* explaining the arcane rituals involved in 
 removing the Altar Stone from the private Catholic Chapel 
  
 A role that cast her forever more, sadly, in playing deeply serious 
 roles 
  
 > However, Waugh, writing in 1945, does use the phrase "jew boy". Difficult 
 to 
 assess 
 > whether it denotes antisemitism. 
  
 Brideshead was set both pre and during the War 
 > 
 > quotes 
 > 
 > Next day I gave him the slip and was having a very happy hour in the bar at 
 the 
 > Tokatlian when who should come in but Anthony Blanche with a beard and a 
 Jew 
 boy. 
 > Anthony lent me a tenner just before Sammy came panting in and recaptured 
 me. After 
 > that I didn't get a minute out of sight; the Embassy staff put us in the 
 boat to 
 > Piraeus and watched us sail away. But in Athens it was easy. I simply 
 walked 
 out of the 
 > Legation one day after lunch, changed my money at Cook's, and asked about 
 sailings to 
 > Alexandria just to fox Sammy, then went down to the port in a bus, found a 
 sailor who 
 > spoke American, lay up with him till his ship sailed, and popped back to 
 > Constantinople, and that was that. Anthony and the Jew boy shared a very 
 nice, 
 > tumbledown house near the bazaars. 
 > 
 > Waugh, Evelyn. Brideshead Revisited 
  
 Its anti-semitic in that the only characteristic Ryder thought" he 
 recognised 
 in 
 one of the strangers, without even inspecting his Birth Certificate was 
 that he 
 was a "Jew Boy". Which he can only have done by applying negative 
 stereotypes; 
 not any of which will have been complementary. 
  
 Whereas with "the beard" while this also formed a judgement - the person was 
 possibly unconventional or artistic, at a time when the absence of beards 
 ( excepting ex sailor King George V )in most conventional occupations meant 
 that this was not simple stereotyping; but a comment on facial hair fashions 
 at the time  And the chap did indeed have a beard 
  
 So Ryder was portrayed as being casually anti-semitic, given to negative 
 stereotyping as was common in his class at that time, a time also when 
 beards were regarded as unconventional. 
  
 bb 
  
 * Who later went on the marry the Director Charles Sturridge. The latter 
 also 
 wrote the screenplay; as John (safely dead) Mortimer's screenplay was 
 regarded 
 as rubbish. But being a barrister, he was able to insist on both a screen 
 credit 
 and payment in full 
  
 > 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)