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  Msg # 12680 of 12850 on ZZUK4448, Sunday 8-02-25, 8:02  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: FREDXX  
  Subj: Re: Board of Deputies to complain about   
 [continued from previous message] 
  
 >>>>> that was "do you know where you can buy drugs" and "miss, do you kiss 
 >>>>> your fianc€€".  I knew several boys who attended a Catholic school, 
 >>>>> and they weren't all Catholic. only thing that came out of that was 
 >>>>> when they queried some point of Catholic doctrine and the staff 
 >>>>> couldn't answer! 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> But bigotry?  None. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I am glad that you had a good experience at school. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> A while back, I suggested that the antisemitic remarks that my elderly 
 >>>> female friend witnessed at her school would have come from batty old 
 >>>> nuns who should never have been employed as teachers. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I am not in a position to examine their personnel files or their 
 >>>> teacher training certificates after this length of time, of course. 
 >>>> But I can readily accept that batty, bigoted old nuns are not likely 
 >>>> to have been typical of the teaching staff at the average Catholic 
 >>>> school in your own day. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> However, it's also possible that bigotry won't be noticed at the time 
 >>>> or stay in the memory forever. In the same way, the Black and White 
 >>>> Minstrel Show would not have registered as racist or objectionable 
 >>>> when it was broadcast every week. 
 >>> 
 >>> It merely registered to me as very boring. 
 >>> 
 >>> Racism is a mindset.  Why did they put on black face? To a young person, 
 >>> as I was, maybe they thought we, the viewers, preferred black singers. 
 >> 
 >> It wasn't that. 
 >> 
 >> The tradition of performing in blackface (which in vaudeville was 
 >> known as "minstrelcy") goes back to the nineteenth century at a minimum. 
 >> 
 >> Al Jolson is probably the name most associated with it, but he was 
 >> following a tradition which was at least forty years old when he 
 >> started in the early years of the last century. 
 >> 
 >> Not all those using black greasepaint and that particular way of 
 >> applying it were white, by the way. 
 > 
 > One wonders why Lenny Henry isn't cancelled as a result. 
 > 
 >    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show 
 > 
 > "contractually obliged", my a***e. 
  
 Quite. 
  
 One can only be contractually obliged to do anything by signing a 
 contract, the other side of it being the receipt of money. 
  
 But all of this gets away from the fact of the history of blackface 
 minstrelsy. There is no point in anyone complaining about customs and 
 practises in the past (the "past" here being only a few years short of 
 two centuries ago). 
  
 That is just performative* posturing. 
  
  
 [* I quite like that word, "performative". It is almost always used from 
 a left perspective, but is clearly usable in a variety of contexts.] 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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