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  Msg # 12656 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Tuesday 8-11-25, 7:48  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: THE TODAL  
  Subj: Re: Palestine Action Arrests  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 11/08/2025 12:50 PM, The Todal wrote: 
  
 > On 11/08/2025 12:06, GB wrote: 
 >> On 10/08/2025 23:43, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> Clearly it does not so believe. It has not repealed any of the laws 
 >>> restricting protest passed by the last government. Both Tweedledee and 
 >>> Tweedledum are taking advantage of widespread dislike of 
 >>> sanctimonious climate protesters to greatly restrict our free speech 
 >>> and protest about issues that may actually be important. 
 > 
 >> Was anyone arrested for protesting about Palestine? 
 > 
 >> Does anyone care very much about the proscribed group Palestine 
 >> Action? A group of protesters who destroyed aircraft on the flimsiest 
 >> of pretexts. I bet that most of the people arrested were completely 
 >> muddle- headed about what they were doing. 
 > 
 > I bet you haven't spoken to these "muddle headed" protesters. Many of 
 > whom are probably better educated and better informed than even 
 > yourself. 
  
 So does their alleged superior intelligence and/or educational 
 achievement mean that they are entitled to commit acts of Criminal 
 Damage (running into hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pounds)? 
  
 >  The muddle-heads are the politicians and journalists. 
 > Illustrated by the headlines on Saturday in the Guardian and the Daily 
 > Mail. 
 > 
 > The Guardian's headline: "Future of 1m Palestinians Hangs in the Balance" 
 > 
 > The Mail's headline: "Eco-Mob to Join Gaza Protests" 
  
 Those headlines are very obviously not about the same subject. 
  
 One is about an international story elsewhere. 
  
 The other is a domestic matter for the UK only. 
 > 
 > I care very much about Palestine Action, and believe they should not 
 > have been proscribed and should now be un-proscribed. In fact, I may 
 > join one of the future demonstrations and put up with being arrested. In 
 > fact, if what I've just said is sufficient to justify arresting me, I'd 
 > accept that martyrdom in the cause of civil liberties. 
 > 
 > To put it very simply, if Palestine Action was unk-proscribed that would 
 > not render it lawful to break into RAF hangars and spray paint aircraft 
 > and break the law. 
  
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