From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Max Demian"  wrote in message 
 news:107dadr$2o00m$3@dont-email.me... 
 > On 10/08/2025 15:56, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 10/08/2025 12:30 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >>> On 09/08/2025 17:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>> On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >>>>> On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>>>> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>>>> "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants 
 >>>>>>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as 
 >>>>>>>>> grounds for 
 >>>>>>>>> going to war with Germany, after the war was won, the discovery and 
 >>>>>>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish 
 >>>>>>>>> people 
 >>>>>>>>> left to murder 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Channeling Dogberry? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Would you care to elaborate please ? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of 
 >>>>>> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant). 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About 
 >>>>>> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your 
 >>>>>> literary achievements. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's 
 >>>>>> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually 
 >>>>>> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she 
 >>>>>> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a 
 >>>>>> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> "DOGBERRY: 
 >>>>>> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's 
 >>>>>> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to 
 >>>>>> conclude, what you lay to their charge." 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V] 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-) 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the 
 >>>>>> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from 
 >>>>>> "in the first place" to "thirdly". 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> That IS what you were doing, isn't it? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the Fourth 
 >>>>>>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of 
 Israel 
 >>>>>>> down the years. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> More Dogberry? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking 
 >>>>> about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Shakespeare... obscure? :-) 
 >>> 
 >>> Not everything he wrote is well known. 
 >> 
 >> Ooh... that very much... er... sort of... depends. 
 >> 
 >> And "Much Ado..." is one of his more frequently-performed works. 
 > 
 > It's nothing to do with how often a play is performed, it's a matter of 
 which "sound 
 > bites" are well known. "To be or not to be"; "A horse, a horse, my kingdom 
 for a 
 > horse." And lots of sayings that come from Shakespeare without most people 
 knowing (or 
 > caring) like "salad days" and lots of others. 
  
 It might also depend on what plays people did for their GCE's. 
  
 We all trooped off to the Academy Cinema in Oxford St to see "Henry V"; 
 so I assume we did that. 
  
 Then 60 odd years later,  a €1.99 DVD in Oxfam 
  
  
 bb 
  
 * Although its a Carlton "Silver Collection" disc; and some of their 
 transers 
 can 
 be rubbish. "Defence of The Realm" for instance. 
  
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