From: billy@anon.com
"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
news:2631272315.35743025@uninhabited.net...
> On 3 Aug 2025 at 12:31:54 BST, "GB" wrote:
>
>> On 02/08/2025 20:35, The Todal wrote:
>>> I think Lewis sincerely believes
>>> that criticism of Israel is usually motivated by antisemitism and a
>>> desire to destroy the state of Israel.
>>
>> The phrase you're looking for is "Scratch an anti-Zionist, and you'll
>> find an anti-semite underneath."
>
> It is entirely possible to accept the pragmatic necessity for Israel to
exist
> as a racial/religious entity (despite the arguable evils committed at its
> formation) but also to be strongly critical of its total failure to make a
> rational compromise with the Palestinians, for at least the last fifty
years
> when it might have been possible. I really don't want to start a discussion
as
> to whether and how it would have been possible. But I don't regard that
> opinion as necessarily antisemitic.
Anti-Zionism has a long and proud history among the Jewish Community
going back to the 19th century.
.
Many of whom have regarded Zionism as simply serving the interests of
Anti-Semites who merely wished to rid Europe of its Jews. A "First Solution"
if you like. With the Balfour Declaration simply formalising that ambition
The foundation of an Israeli State before the arrival of the Messiah, has
always been opposed by the more Orthodox, as contradicting the Divine
Will.*
While others were never wholly convinced of the sheer practicalities, or by
the
overwhelming sense of optimism which characterised the early days. Certainly
before the First Arab-Israeli War.
Unfortunately Mark Lewis, like many other people has a very limited
perspective
where the history is concerned. Possibly not helped by his spending his
evenings engaging a succession of Anti-Semitic trolls
bb
*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism
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* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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