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  Msg # 12582 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Saturday 8-01-25, 7:09  
  From: MAX DEMIAN  
  To: JNUGENT  
  Subj: Re: BBC Charter  
 From: max_demian@bigfoot.com 
  
 On 01/08/2025 18:43, JNugent wrote: 
 > On 01/08/2025 04:19 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:14:11 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 31/07/2025 09:16 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:10:35 +0100, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:30:21 +0100, JNugent  
 >>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 18/07/2025 01:51 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:03:49 +0100, Roland Perry  
 >>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> In message , at 13:59:10 on Thu, 
 >>>>>>>> 17 Jul 2025, JNugent  remarked: 
 >>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2025 06:49 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> "JNugent"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>>>> news:mdq2h5FotucU1@mid.individual.net... 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> You snipped it (for your own rasons), but can you posit an 
 >>>>>>>>>>> innocent reason for BBC vacancies being advertised in The 
 >>>>>>>>>>> Guardian, but not The Times or The Telegraph? 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> Even assuming that the claim is true 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> It is. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> And not the slightest bit un-usual. Back in the day, jobs for 
 >>>>>>>> senior managers in the IT industry (amongst others) were normally 
 >>>>>>>> advertised only in The Sunday Times. Quite irrespective of the 
 >>>>>>>> paper's politics. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Similarly jobs for senior schoolteachers, only in the TES (Times 
 >>>>>>>> Educational Supplement). 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Why waste your money advertising elsewhere, when virtually all your 
 >>>>>>>> target audience will be assiduously scanning the one appropriate 
 >>>>>>>> publication every week? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Indeed. It works both ways. Cornering the market for a particular 
 >>>>>>> type of paid content (eg, job adverts) is a very good way of also 
 >>>>>>> increasing the views of your own content (reportage) and other paid 
 >>>>>>> content (general advertising). And once you have a reputation for 
 >>>>>>> being the place people will look for these adverts, then the 
 >>>>>>> advertisers will focus on putting them in your publication. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Another one which used to do that very effectively, pre-Internet, 
 >>>>>>> was the Evening Standard with its rental adverts. If you wanted to 
 >>>>>>> rent a flat in London, you needed to buy the Standard, because 
 >>>>>>> that's where all the adverts were. And if you had a flat you wanted 
 >>>>>>> to find a tenant for, you had to advertise it in the Standard 
 >>>>>>> because that's where everybody was looking. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> They were private sector adverts, placed most of the time by private 
 >>>>>> individuals. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Not sure if it's still the case but back when i was working in 
 >>>>> Northern Ireland (70s to 90s), firms generally placed employment ads 
 >>>>> in both a 'Catholic' paper and a 'Protestant' paper so as not to run 
 >>>>> foul of fair emplyment legislation. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> NI is a special place for the equality act. As a few recruitment 
 >>>> systems have discovered to their cost. 
 >>> 
 >>> Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 >>> Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 >>> of the UK? 
 >> 
 >> I suggest you read a history of Ireland from Cromwell to the present day. 
 > 
 > Woud it not be possible to just answer the question? 
 > 
 > Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 > Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 > of the UK? 
  
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