From: the_todal@icloud.com 
  
 On 29/07/2025 18:00, GB wrote: 
 > On 29/07/2025 17:25, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 >> On 2025-07-29, kat  wrote: 
 >>> On 28/07/2025 20:04, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:17:20 +0100, JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>>> When anyone says "I was taught X at school", they mean, and are 
 >>>>> taken to 
 >>>>> mean, that it was formally taught to them as part of the purposes and 
 >>>>> objectives of the school. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> No, they don't. They really don't. You appear to be in a minority of 
 >>>> one as regards this particular non-standard opinion. 
 >>> 
 >>> I would say that I was "taught" what I needed to know to pass exams, 
 >>> but that there were other things I "learned".€€ I was taught how to 
 >>> play hockey, but I learned I was useless at it. 
 >>> 
 >>> Yes, it is all education, but I tend to see a difference.€€ I didn't 
 >>> have to agree with opinions of teachers. 
 >> 
 >> Ok, but that's not what Mark and JNugent are talking about. You are 
 >> making a distinction between information deliberately passed on by 
 >> teachers and things you learned for yourself. JNugent is purporting 
 >> to make a distinction between different types of information passed 
 >> on by teachers, and he's clearly wrong, and your comment doesn't 
 >> support what he's saying. 
 > 
 > So, when Mr Good, the English teacher, told a class of 12 year olds that 
 > "Using a condom was like washing your feet with your socks on", you are 
 > adamant that he was teaching them to have unprotected sex? 
 > 
 > I must say that I'm not so sure about that. 
 > 
 > 
 > 
  
 Our English teacher once told us a little about Sigmund Freud's 
 theories, which was not relevant to the set book we were discussing, but 
 was an agreeable diversion and, of course, since none of us had read 
 Freud's work we were inclined to believe our teacher's interpretation. 
  
 Our teacher said how distasteful it was to read that our teacher's son 
 might yearn to have sex with his mother and see his father as a rival 
 for sexual favours, despite the son not yet having reached puberty. I 
 think it was intended as a way of encouraging us to question what we 
 were told by eminent experts in their field and to apply common sense. 
 BUt we may have been too young to understand the lesson.  There is a lot 
 in Freud that has been discredited, especially his belief that when 
 young women described being sexually molested by their father it was 
 surely a fantasy and not a real life experience. 
  
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