From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
 news:xn0p96wwy6a4xyr00t@news.individual.net... 
 > On 05/08/2025 in message <0599948488.040230b8@uninhabited.net> Roger Hayter 
 wrote: 
 > 
 >>>Still confused, antisemitism seems to be a crime, how does that arise if 
 >>>we have no laws 
 >>>about Jewish people? 
 >> 
 >>Antisemitism isn't crime. Any more than other forms or racism or religious 
 >>intolerance isn't a crime. Even paedophilia is not a crime.  Expressing 
 >>antisemitic views in the wrong place can make one unpopular or 
 unemployable, 
 >>but it is not a crime. 
 >> 
 >>It is what one says or does to promote or practise antisemitism that may be 
 >>criminal. Just as with my other examples of unpopular ideas. 
 > 
 > Thank you :-) 
 > 
 > Sorry if I am doing this to death but the IHRA working definition says: 
 > 
 > "Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, 
 the 
 > workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the 
 overall context, 
 > include, but are not limited to: 
 > 
 > Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations 
 about Jews as 
 > such or the power of Jews as collective - such as, especially but not 
 exclusively, the 
 > myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, 
 economy, 
 > government or other societal institutions." 
 > 
 > If I were to suggest that Netanyahu has tentacles in the White House, that 
 it is over 
 > represented with Jewish people and this is evidenced by America's 
 unquestioning support 
 > of Israel 
  
 It is equally plausible to suggest that Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud 
 has tentacles in the White House, and that the House of Saud is 
 over represnted in the White House; as  evidenced  by  America's 
 unquestioning support of Saudi Arabia 
  
 > even when the world condemns what Israel is doing 
  
 even when the world often never even gets to find out what Saudi Arabia is 
 doing; by way of suppressing all opposition; and regularly executing 
 criminals 
 including female "adulterers" in public. 
 . 
  
 > have I been antisemitic and, if so, what are the consequences? 
  
 You are simply ill-informed. And has already been pointed out, anti- 
 semitism of 
 itself is not a crime. And so there are no consequences. Other than in some 
 cases, 
 a never-ending succession of questions, to which both aspiring and committed 
 anti-semites, find difficulty in providing truly satisfactory answers. 
 Which may, or may not, provide pause for thought. 
  
 > 
 > PS I don't know if the group answered your point about being sued for 
 giving 
 advice but 
 > I promise not to sue you :-) 
  
 That question was in fact raised by Mark Goodge 
  
  
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