From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 On 5 Aug 2025 at 19:09:07 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""  wrote: 
  
 > On 05/08/2025 in message <0599948488.040230b8@uninhabited.net> Roger 
 > Hayter wrote: 
 > 
 >>> Still confused, antisemitism seems to be a crime, how does that arise if 
 >>> we have no laws 
 >>> about Jewish people? 
 >> 
 >> Antisemitism isn't crime. Any more than other forms or racism or religious 
 >> intolerance isn't a crime. Even paedophilia is not a crime.  Expressing 
 >> antisemitic views in the wrong place can make one unpopular or 
 >> unemployable, 
 >> but it is not a crime. 
 >> 
 >> It is what one says or does to promote or practise antisemitism that may 
 be 
 >> criminal. Just as with my other examples of unpopular ideas. 
 > 
 > Thank you :-) 
 > 
 > Sorry if I am doing this to death but the IHRA working definition says: 
 > 
 > "Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, 
 > the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the 
 > overall context, include, but are not limited to: 
 > 
 > Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations 
 > about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective €€€ such as, 
 > especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy 
 > or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal 
 > institutions." 
 > 
 > If I were to suggest that Netanyahu has tentacles in the White House, that 
 > it is over represented with Jewish people and this is evidenced by 
 > America's unquestioning support of Israel even when the world condemns 
 > what Israel is doing have I been antisemitic and, if so, what are the 
 > consequences? 
  
 I suspect that this is a somewhat antisemitic point of view, in that 
 America's 
 support for Israel is much more squalid self-interest than it is a 
 consequence 
 of "over-representation" of Jewish people - but that is arguable I suppose. 
 Especially by antisemitic people. 
  
 The consequences are likely to be zero. 
  
  
 > 
 > PS I don't know if the group answered your point about being sued for 
 > giving advice but I promise not to sue you :-) 
  
 Not my point, but I am pretty sure I am safe from being sued. 
  
  
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