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  Msg # 12511 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Monday 8-17-25, 6:32  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: ROGER HAYTER  
  Subj: Re: Being forced to lie on forms ?  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 17/08/2025 01:37 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > On 17 Aug 2025 at 10:56:00 BST, "GB"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 16/08/2025 15:18, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>> On 16 Aug 2025 at 15:07:32 BST, "Jethro_uk"  
 wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> Recently registered with a job site. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Thanks to it's "curated" approach, I am unable to enter the 
 establishment 
 >>>> where I got my degree. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> It doesn't allow you to add to the list or provide space for "other". 
 The 
 >>>> only way to proceed is to enter one of it's listed places. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Assuming this outfit were to advance me to an employer who selects me 
 for 
 >>>> consideration and potentially employment, and assuming I tell the truth 
 >>>> (if possible) when commencing employment, would there be any issues ? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Is there any general legal principle when very bad (or more often US) 
 >>>> design results in someone being required to lie to advance an automated 
 >>>> process ? Or is the strict legal answer that if you cannot answer the 
 >>>> question truthfully, you are excluded from the process ? 
 >>> 
 >>> If you cannot answer the question truthfully, you are excluded from the 
 >>> process. 
 >> 
 >> Really, even if there's no intention to defraud, and you correct any 
 >> false impression at the earliest opportunity (and well before accepting 
 >> a job)? 
 > 
 > I think demonstrating that you had successfully imparted the correction to 
 > every relevant part of the employing organisation before any decision to 
 > consider your application might be hard, especially in retrospect. 
 Especially 
 > if the employing organisation were American and you could therefore be 
 charged 
 > in America and you were not an American and therefore without any 
 discernible 
 > human rights. 
  
 Would there not usually be a free text section wherein the true fact 
 could be declared? 
 > 
 > 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>> 
 >>> There must be some side channel you can communicate with them, or leave 
 the 
 >>> question blank. Lying on this form could be anything from an 
 embarrassment 
 to 
 >>> a criminal offence if you gain employment as a result. And it might prove 
 >>> difficult to show that you corrected it informally. Perhaps they 
 deliberately 
 >>> want to confine consideration to certain nationalities? 
 >>> 
 > 
 > 
  
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