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  Msg # 125 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Tuesday 8-25-25, 1:02  
  From: JEFF GAINES  
  To: JNUGENT  
  Subj: Re: Lucy Connolly's martyrdom  
 From: jgnewsid@outlook.com 
  
 On 24/08/2025 in message  JNugent wrote: 
  
 >On 24/08/2025 01:46 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: 
 >>On 24/08/2025 in message  JNugent wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>On 23/08/2025 11:11 PM, Alistair Tyrrell wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>the_todal@icloud.com says... 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>Now that she's out, the newspapers have descended on her like vultures 
 >>>>>to demonstrate that she was a political prisoner, that she is a victim 
 >>>>>of the establishment, that she should defy her critics. I think she is 
 >>>>>quite pleased by this attention. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>I wonder if the newspapers and TV channels currently 
 >>>>splashing her everywhere are paying her? Would that be 
 >>>>unlawful - a convicted criminal profiting from a crime? 
 >>> 
 >>>What crime would she be committing? 
 >>> 
 >>>When did it become a crime (in Ebgland and Wales, if not the whole UK) 
 >>>to express one's opinion? 
 >> 
 >>In the clause following the clause that gives us freedom of speech: 
 >> 
 >>ARTICLE 10 
 >>FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION 
 >> 
 >>Clause 1 
 >>Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall 
 >>include freedom to 
 >>hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without 
 >>interference 
 >>by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This Article shall not 
 >>prevent States 
 >>from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema 
 >>enterprises. 
 >> 
 >>Clause 2 
 >>The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and 
 >>responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, 
 >>restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in 
 >>a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial 
 >>integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for 
 >>the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation 
 >>or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information 
 >>received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and 
 >>impartiality of the judiciary. 
 > 
 >Which part of the above do you say is relevant in the case under 
 >discussion? 
  
 "When did it become a crime (in England and Wales, if not the whole UK) to 
 express one's opinion?" 
  
 -- 
 Jeff Gaines Dorset UK 
 You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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