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  Msg # 12490 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Monday 8-10-25, 5:09  
  From: THE TODAL  
  To: ANDY WALKER  
  Subj: Re: BBC Charter  
 From: the_todal@icloud.com 
  
 On 10/08/2025 16:28, Andy Walker wrote: 
 > On 10/08/2025 11:31, JNugent wrote: 
 > [...] 
 >> But even apart from that sort of semi-organised stuff, there was> 
 >> still a recognisable residual anti-Jewish attitude in Britain among 
 >> the older generations, though it was certainly fading. It was normal 
 >> to hear (overhear) the term "Jewboy" from people you might have 
 >> thought more measured than that. 
 > 
 >  €€€€€€€€An elderly neighbour was wont, in my childhood, to use the 
 > term with no pro- or anti-Jewish significance whatsoever.€€ Any cute 
 > baby was "Oh, what a pretty jewboy!", with the same sort of meaning 
 > as "little angel" or "cherub".€€ I don't know how common that usage 
 > was, but I'm tolerably sure that she would have been horrified to be 
 > told "You can't say that!", as if she had used a swear-word.€€ [She 
 > would have known about the Holocaust, but would simply not have 
 > associated "jewboy" with Jewishness.] 
 > 
  
 I've been watching, for the first time, the excellent Grananda TV 
 adaptation of "Brideshead Revisited". I recommend it to all. 
  
 However, Waugh, writing in 1945, does use the phrase "jew boy". 
 Difficult to assess whether it denotes antisemitism. 
  
 quotes 
  
 Next day I gave him the slip and was having a very happy hour in the bar 
 at the Tokatlian when who should come in but Anthony Blanche with a 
 beard and a Jew boy. Anthony lent me a tenner just before Sammy came 
 panting in and recaptured me. After that I didn€€€t get a minute out of 
 sight; the Embassy staff put us in the boat to Piraeus and watched us 
 sail away. But in Athens it was easy. I simply walked out of the 
 Legation one day after lunch, changed my money at Cook€€€s, and asked 
 about sailings to Alexandria just to fox Sammy, then went down to the 
 port in a bus, found a sailor who spoke American, lay up with him till 
 his ship sailed, and popped back to Constantinople, and that was that. 
 Anthony and the Jew boy shared a very nice, tumbledown house near the 
 bazaars. 
  
 Waugh, Evelyn. Brideshead Revisited 
  
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