From: JNugent73@mail.com
On 10/08/2025 12:30 PM, Max Demian wrote:
> On 09/08/2025 17:02, JNugent wrote:
>> On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote:
>>>>> "JNugent" wrote:
>>>>>> billy bookcase wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants
>>>>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as
>>>>>>> grounds for
>>>>>>> going to war with Germany, after the war was won, the discovery and
>>>>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> left to murder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Channeling Dogberry?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you care to elaborate please ?
>>>>
>>>> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of
>>>> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant).
>>>>
>>>> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About
>>>> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your
>>>> literary achievements.
>>>>
>>>> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's
>>>> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually
>>>> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she
>>>> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a
>>>> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong:
>>>>
>>>> "DOGBERRY:
>>>> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's
>>>> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to
>>>> conclude, what you lay to their charge."
>>>>
>>>> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V]
>>>>
>>>> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the
>>>> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from
>>>> "in the first place" to "thirdly".
>>>>
>>>> That IS what you were doing, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the Fourth
>>>>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of Israel
>>>>> down the years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention.
>>>>
>>>> More Dogberry?
>>>
>>> That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking
>>> about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog.
>>
>> Shakespeare... obscure? :-)
>
> Not everything he wrote is well known.
Ooh... that very much... er... sort of... depends.
And "Much Ado..." is one of his more frequently-performed works.
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