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  Msg # 12488 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Monday 8-10-25, 5:09  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: MAX DEMIAN  
  Subj: Re: BBC Charter  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 10/08/2025 12:30 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 > On 09/08/2025 17:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >>> On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>> "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>>>> billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants 
 >>>>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as 
 >>>>>>> grounds for 
 >>>>>>> going to war with Germany,  after the war was won, the discovery and 
 >>>>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish 
 >>>>>>> people 
 >>>>>>> left to murder 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Channeling Dogberry? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Would you care to elaborate please ? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of 
 >>>> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant). 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About 
 >>>> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your 
 >>>> literary achievements. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's 
 >>>> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually 
 >>>> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she 
 >>>> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a 
 >>>> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> "DOGBERRY: 
 >>>> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's 
 >>>> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to 
 >>>> conclude, what you lay to their charge." 
 >>>> 
 >>>> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V] 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-) 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the 
 >>>> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from 
 >>>> "in the first place" to "thirdly". 
 >>>> 
 >>>> That IS what you were doing, isn't it? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the  Fourth 
 >>>>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of Israel 
 >>>>> down the years. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> More Dogberry? 
 >>> 
 >>> That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking 
 >>> about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog. 
 >> 
 >> Shakespeare... obscure? :-) 
 > 
 > Not everything he wrote is well known. 
  
 Ooh... that very much... er... sort of... depends. 
  
 And "Much Ado..." is one of his more frequently-performed works. 
  
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