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  Msg # 12485 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Sunday 8-02-25, 4:31  
  From: JETHRO_UK  
  To: JNUGENT  
  Subj: Re: BBC Charter  
 From: jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com 
  
 On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 18:43:16 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
  
 > On 01/08/2025 04:19 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:14:11 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 31/07/2025 09:16 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:10:35 +0100, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:30:21 +0100, JNugent  
 >>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 18/07/2025 01:51 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:03:49 +0100, Roland Perry  
 >>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> In message , at 13:59:10 on 
 >>>>>>>> Thu, 17 Jul 2025, JNugent  remarked: 
 >>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2025 06:49 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> "JNugent"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>>>> news:mdq2h5FotucU1@mid.individual.net... 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> You snipped it (for your own rasons), but can you posit an 
 >>>>>>>>>>> innocent reason for BBC vacancies being advertised in The 
 >>>>>>>>>>> Guardian, but not The Times or The Telegraph? 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> Even assuming that the claim is true 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> It is. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> And not the slightest bit un-usual. Back in the day, jobs for 
 >>>>>>>> senior managers in the IT industry (amongst others) were normally 
 >>>>>>>> advertised only in The Sunday Times. Quite irrespective of the 
 >>>>>>>> paper's politics. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Similarly jobs for senior schoolteachers, only in the TES (Times 
 >>>>>>>> Educational Supplement). 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Why waste your money advertising elsewhere, when virtually all 
 >>>>>>>> your target audience will be assiduously scanning the one 
 >>>>>>>> appropriate publication every week? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Indeed. It works both ways. Cornering the market for a particular 
 >>>>>>> type of paid content (eg, job adverts) is a very good way of also 
 >>>>>>> increasing the views of your own content (reportage) and other 
 >>>>>>> paid content (general advertising). And once you have a reputation 
 >>>>>>> for being the place people will look for these adverts, then the 
 >>>>>>> advertisers will focus on putting them in your publication. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Another one which used to do that very effectively, pre-Internet, 
 >>>>>>> was the Evening Standard with its rental adverts. If you wanted to 
 >>>>>>> rent a flat in London, you needed to buy the Standard, because 
 >>>>>>> that's where all the adverts were. And if you had a flat you 
 >>>>>>> wanted to find a tenant for, you had to advertise it in the 
 >>>>>>> Standard because that's where everybody was looking. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> They were private sector adverts, placed most of the time by 
 >>>>>> private individuals. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Not sure if it's still the case but back when i was working in 
 >>>>> Northern Ireland (70s to 90s), firms generally placed employment ads 
 >>>>> in both a 'Catholic' paper and a 'Protestant' paper so as not to run 
 >>>>> foul of fair emplyment legislation. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> NI is a special place for the equality act. As a few recruitment 
 >>>> systems have discovered to their cost. 
 >>> 
 >>> Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 >>> Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 >>> of the UK? 
 >> 
 >> I suggest you read a history of Ireland from Cromwell to the present 
 >> day. 
 > 
 > Woud it not be possible to just answer the question? 
 > 
 > Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 > Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 > of the UK? 
  
 I did answer the question. 
  
 The current state of affairs is a result of 800 years of history. There 
 isn't the time (or in my case the will) to summarise that into 10 bullet 
 points, each of which will form the basis for arguments anyway and which 
 in no way will affect the reality one tiniest bit. 
  
 If people have to ask "why is Northern Ireland like that ?" then it is 
 self evident that they won't understand the answer. It is, as they say, 
 "complicated". 
  
 Feel free to continue to harangue me and others. But the situation is as 
 it is, whether or not you approve, understand, or even care. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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