From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 > On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>> "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>> billy bookcase wrote: 
 > 
 >>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans 
 >>> 
 >>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants 
 >>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans. 
 >>> 
 >>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as 
 >>>>> grounds for 
 >>>>> going to war with Germany,  after the war was won, the discovery and 
 >>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish people 
 >>>>> left to murder 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Channeling Dogberry? 
 >>> 
 >>> Would you care to elaborate please ? 
 >> 
 >> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of 
 >> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant). 
 >> 
 >> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About 
 >> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your 
 >> literary achievements. 
 >> 
 >> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's 
 >> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually 
 >> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she 
 >> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a 
 >> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong: 
 >> 
 >> "DOGBERRY: 
 >> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's 
 >> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to 
 >> conclude, what you lay to their charge." 
 >> 
 >> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V] 
 >> 
 >> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-) 
 >> 
 >> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the 
 >> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from 
 >> "in the first place" to "thirdly". 
 >> 
 >> That IS what you were doing, isn't it? 
 >> 
 >>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the  Fourth 
 >>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of Israel 
 >>> down the years. 
 >>> 
 >>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention. 
 >> 
 >> More Dogberry? 
 > 
 > That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking 
 > about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog. 
  
 Shakespeare... obscure? :-) 
  
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