From: jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com 
  
 On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 13:55:21 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote: 
  
 > On 04/08/2025 12:52, Max Demian wrote: 
 >> [quoted text muted] 
 > 
 > Well, yes, but we're talking about "professionals" (whatever that might 
 > mean) 
  
 IME, "professional" means "will never criticise another 'professional'". 
  
 So plumbers, electricians, builders, roofers aren't. (I've never 
 encountered one who hasn't said "Cor blimey, what cowboy did this ?" in 
 some form or another*). 
  
 Whereas getting a lawyer, or accountant (and presumably architect) to 
 actually say "they saw you coming" seems to be rare to impossible. You 
 can probably add police to that as well. 
  
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