From: max_demian@bigfoot.com 
  
 On 14/08/2025 21:59, JNugent wrote: 
 > On 14/08/2025 04:25 PM, The Todal wrote: 
 >> On 14/08/2025 15:17, JNugent wrote: 
 >>> On 12/08/2025 04:43 PM, JNugent wrote: 
  
 >>>> As you were well aware, the reference was to the post-1945 settlement 
 >>>> with Poland possessing a large part of what had been Germany and the 
 >>>> Soviet Union possessing another large part (though smaller than the 
 >>>> portion subsumed into Poland). 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Was / is that acceptable? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> It's a straightforward enough question, well capable of a "Yes" or "No" 
 >>>> answer. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Or, one supposes, an "I don't know" answer. 
 >>> 
 >>> I wonder whether an answer to that is going to appear? 
 >>> 
 >>> Or perhaps someone has realised the obvious implications of any answer 
 >>> of "Yes" or "No"? 
 >> 
 >> Or perhaps nobody cares very much or nobody is reading this thread now. 
 >> So why not answer your question yourself? 
 > 
 > I'm in two minds about it. I'm still not sure that the accommodations 
 > with the Soviet Union accepted by Roosevelt (later, Truman) and 
 > Churchill (later Attlee) were proper. 
  
 The four victors of WW2 (UK, US, France, Russia) were left with the 
 spoils of war. Each administered their parts according to their 
 preferred ideologies: democracy or communism. 
 > Eastern Europe was not theirs to give away to Stalin, yet that's what 
 > they did. Ironic that the UK went to war over Poland but left Poland 
 > completely in the hands of one of the two 1939 invaders until 1989/90. 
  
 Russia didn't invade Poland, Germany did. 
 > If the freedom of Poland wasn't all that important to the UK in the 
 > forst place, one wonders whether the war could really have been worth 
 > it. Just imagine a world where WW2 hadn't happened. 
  
 No nukes for a start. A lot less militaristic. No holocaust (probably). 
 I'm sure that the Nazis would have mellowed in time. Look at all the 
 extremism we have today. WW2 didn't eliminate that. 
  
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