From: max_demian@bigfoot.com 
  
 On 17/08/2025 23:37, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 > On 2025-08-17, GB  wrote: 
  
 >> For the sort of offences cautions might be used for, the trial would be 
 >> in the Magistrates Court, and assuming there's reasonable evidence a 
 >> conviction is highly likely. So, there'll still be a criminal record. 
 >> 
 >> So, I suppose the point you are making is that in practice the Crown 
 >> might not bother to prosecute, or would lose the papers, etc. The police 
 >> would still record the incident on their computer, and it could show up 
 >> on a DBS check, but there'd be no conviction to disclose. 
 > 
 > The point I was making is that people should know if what they are doing 
 > is pleading guilty to a crime. 
 > 
 > But also, two people I know who have convictions via cautions, neither 
 > of which would have led to a prosecution, let alone a conviction, if 
 > they had refused the caution. 
  
 How can you have a conviction "via a caution"? Surely if you accept a 
 caution, the case proceeds no further. 
  
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