From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "JNugent"  wrote in message news:mfsj8mFtert 
 1@mid.individual.net... 
 > On 10/08/2025 10:15 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >> "The Todal"  wrote in message 
 >> news:mfsc9uFs6deU3@mid.individual.net... 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>> Yvette Cooper thanked police for their work handling Palestine rights 
 protests across 
 >>> the UK on Saturday, saying there had been a "very small number of people 
 whose 
 >>> actions 
 >>> crossed the line into criminality". 
 >>> 
 >>> unquote 
 >>> 
 >>> Which implies that many people were arrested for actions that didn't 
 cross 
 the line 
 >>> into criminality. 
 >> 
 >> Which also clearly indicates that the Home Secretary is quite willing to 
 >> prejudge issues of criminality;  which formerly were the sole province of 
 >> the Courts to decide 
 > 
 > The police do have a bit of a role in it too. 
 > 
 > The formal model is that only people who can reasonably be expected of 
 having committed 
 > an offence may be arrested. So an on the spot  judgment is called for. 
  
 People are arrested, and then subsequently charged, on "suspicion" of having 
 committed an offence. 
  
 Usually on quite reasonable suspicion.* 
  
 Nevertheless it still remains for the police, via the CPS and prosecuting 
 counsel to subsequently demonstrate in Court, to the satisfaction of a 
 Magistrate or of a Jury, that their suspicions were indeed correct 
  
  
  
 bb 
  
 * Sufficient to return an 83% conviction rate in 2024. Discounting the 
 possibility of deliberate fit-ups, miscarriages of justice; and in 
 some cases undercover policemen acting as agents provocateur, 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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