From: max_demian@bigfoot.com 
  
 On 09/08/2025 17:02, JNugent wrote: 
 > On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >> On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>> "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>>> billy bookcase wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants 
 >>>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as 
 >>>>>> grounds for 
 >>>>>> going to war with Germany,€€ after the war was won, the discovery and 
 >>>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish people 
 >>>>>> left to murder 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Channeling Dogberry? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Would you care to elaborate please ? 
 >>> 
 >>> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of 
 >>> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant). 
 >>> 
 >>> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About 
 >>> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your 
 >>> literary achievements. 
 >>> 
 >>> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's 
 >>> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually 
 >>> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she 
 >>> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a 
 >>> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong: 
 >>> 
 >>> "DOGBERRY: 
 >>> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's 
 >>> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to 
 >>> conclude, what you lay to their charge." 
 >>> 
 >>> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V] 
 >>> 
 >>> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-) 
 >>> 
 >>> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the 
 >>> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from 
 >>> "in the first place" to "thirdly". 
 >>> 
 >>> That IS what you were doing, isn't it? 
 >>> 
 >>>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the€€ Fourth 
 >>>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of Israel 
 >>>> down the years. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention. 
 >>> 
 >>> More Dogberry? 
 >> 
 >> That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking 
 >> about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog. 
 > 
 > Shakespeare... obscure? :-) 
  
 Not everything he wrote is well known. 
  
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