From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 09/08/2025 10:05 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > On 9 Aug 2025 at 18:05:50 BST, "JNugent"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 08/08/2025 02:32 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>> On 8 Aug 2025 at 14:12:43 BST, "Max Demian"  
 wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 07/08/2025 21:24, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>> "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
 >>>>> news:xn0p99pwb94sjja00z@news.individual.net... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> If we do have that then what is the equivalent of antisemitism for 
 Arabs or 
 >>>>>> Scots or 
 >>>>>> Methodists? I think we are talking about race with antisemitism not 
 religion 
 >>>>>> as I 
 >>>>>> mistakenly thought. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> People who just hate Jews aren't fussy. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> It really is as simple as that. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> There is unimpeachable historical evidence of people persecuting 
 >>>>> and latterly murdering large numbers of Jews going back over 
 >>>>> 1000 years. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Unlike any other group of people. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> No, Jews are just "special", for some reason. I can understand Germans 
 >>>> with their "war guilt", but we've got noting to be ashamed of, unlike 
 >>>> Israelis/Zionists and their supporters/apologists in every synagogue 
 >>>> world wide. 
 >>> 
 >>> We certainly have less to be ashamed of than the Nazis. But "nothing" is 
 a 
 bit 
 >>> of an overstatement. It might be valuable to remember some of the hatred 
 and 
 >>> violent disorder whipped up by fascists in the '30s and well into the 
 post 
 war 
 >>> period[1] against Jewish individuals and Jewish premises. If for no other 
 >>> reason than to better understand the hatred and violence now being 
 promoted by 
 >>> our more modern fascists against Muslims and immigrants in general. 
 >> 
 >> Well said. Antisemitism sort of fell out of favour during WW2 and 
 >> especially in the immediate aftermath when the death camps had been 
 >> exposed - as I understand it - but there was plenty of it still around, 
 >> esecially among older people. 
 >>> 
 >>> [1] post war austerity was a fertile breeding ground for fascists blaming 
 >>> "Jews" and their businesses for profiteering and depriving the workers of 
 >>> their right to decent living standards. Familiar, or what? 
 >> 
 >> Post WW2? 
 >> 
 >> Or WW1? 
 > 
 > WW2:   https://newlinesmag.com/essays/the-postwar-revival-of-british- 
 fascism/ 
 > 
 > Though the authors blame Zionist terrorism rather than austerity, mainly. 
 The 
 > fascists certainly took advantage though. I didn't have time/energy for a 
 > balanced assessment, but I remember my parents talking of the events. 
  
 Around 1960, I remember seeing scrawled on a brick wall (in white paint 
 with letters about 4' high): "God bless Sir Oswald Mosley. Keep Britain 
 white". Not particularly anti-semitic, but I also remember seeing 
 swastikas scrawled in poublic places. It was all in block capitals of 
 course. 
  
 There was some media publicity at about the same time about someone 
 called Colin Jordan, who I think was an organiser. 
  
 But even apart from that sort of semi-organised stuff, there was still a 
 recognisable residual anti-Jewish attitude in Britain among the older 
 generations, though it was certainly fading. It was normal to hear 
 (overhear) the term "Jewboy" from people you might have thought more 
 measured than that. 
  
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