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 On 2025-08-07 15:56, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 > On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 14:29:24 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: 
 > 
 >> In message , at 13:00:07 on 
 >> Thu, 7 Aug 2025, Nick Odell  remarked: 
 >>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 12:38:33 +0100, Roland Perry  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> In message <1071tk8$3rajn$2@dont-email.me>, at 11:02:48 on Thu, 7 Aug 
 >>>> 2025, Serena Blanchflower  remarked: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>>> No, I'm pretty sure they're in the same category as class 2 
 >>>>>>> mobility 
 >>>>>>> scooters, which are legal on pavements but not on the road.€€ I think 
 >>>>>>> there is an exception though for where there aren't any pavements; 
 >>>>>>> in that case, they can, legally, be driven on the road. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>>   In this case there was a pavement, but with not very good ramps 
 >>>>>>   when 
 >>>>>> encountering side-roads. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Not a rare situation.  I don't know what the legal situation is on 
 >>>>> those occasions when, in theory, there's a pavement but it isn't 
 >>>>> really accessible.  Whether this is because of obstructions, uneven 
 >>>>> pavements or lack of dropped curbs. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Although not the case in yesterday's example, I've often encountered 
 >>>> powered_chairs/scooters on the road going the wrong way up a one-way 
 >>>> street, with the excuse that the pavement wasn't level enough. 
 >>> 
 >>> Yes, but a wheelchair user is legally a pedestrian and where a 
 >>> pedestrian is unable to use a footpath they are advised by the Highway 
 >>> Code to walk facing the oncoming traffic. 
 >> 
 >> Interesting. Is a *powered*-wheelchair user also always a pedestrian? 
 >> Does it depend on the maximum speed it's governed to. 
 >> 
 >> In other news, yesterday I encountered a family of about six walking 
 >> along the tarmac on the side of the very busy A10 between Ely and 
 >> Cambridge, with their backs to the traffic. Staring at their phones, 
 >> obviously. 
 > 
 > "Round are way" there are a couple of routes where to cross a road you 
 > need to take one dropped kerb (if you can) and then proceed between 100 
 > and 400 metres to get to one on the other side of the road. This entails 
 > being in the road. And hoping that the dropped kerb at the destination 
 > isn't blocked. 
 > 
 > (We return to my assertion that a real justice system would see summary 
 > execution for such offenders along with litter louts. However, I'm not 
 > king. Yet.) 
 > 
  
 I am reminded of a Neighbourhood Watch meeting a few years ago, where 
 the subject of pavement parking came up as it regularly did. The senior 
 policeman leading the discussion said "With all those people squashing 
 past with their wheelchairs, pushchairs and shopping bags, I'm surprised 
 the cars don't get scratched more often". He didn't (quite) suggest we 
 actually did it! 
  
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