From: jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com 
  
 On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 22:40:45 +0000, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
  
 > On 2025-08-16, Jethro_uk  wrote: 
 >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 11:47:01 +0000, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 >>> On 2025-08-16, Jethro_uk  wrote: 
 >>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:06:46 +0100, GB wrote: 
 >>>>> In particular, she claimed she didn't understand the consequences of 
 >>>>> pleading guilty, which the COA found 'incredible' - which is fairly 
 >>>>> close to calling her a blatant liar. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> So she really is a bit dim ? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I am reminded of people who subsequently discover that accepting a 
 >>>> caution is pleading guilty. 
 >>> 
 >>> I've got a lot more sympathy for that - it doesn't involve standing up 
 >>> in court and saying "guilty", and the police often do not inform you 
 >>> in any clear way at all that you're pleading guilty to a crime by 
 >>> signing the papers and that you will therefore have a criminal record. 
 >>> They'll be stressing that if you sign you can go home straight away 
 >>> and not have to stay overnight in jail and not have to go to court. 
 >> 
 >> Is that justice ? 
 > 
 > Well no I don't think so, hence my comment. 
  
 The problem is (as we know) the legal system doesn't (literally) do 
 justice. It does law. And it's usually a fluke when the two coincide. 
  
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