From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Max Demian"  wrote in message 
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 > On 08/08/2025 17:45, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >> "Max Demian"  wrote in message 
 >> news:1074t4b$no99$1@dont-email.me... 
 >>> On 07/08/2025 21:24, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>> "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
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 >>>> 
 >>>>> If we do have that then what is the equivalent of antisemitism for 
 Arabs 
 or Scots 
 >>>>> or 
 >>>>> Methodists? I think we are talking about race with antisemitism not 
 religion as I 
 >>>>> mistakenly thought. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> People who just hate Jews aren't fussy. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> It really is as simple as that. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> There is unimpeachable historical evidence of people persecuting 
 >>>> and latterly murdering large numbers of Jews going back over 
 >>>> 1000 years. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Unlike any other group of people. 
 >>> 
 >>> No, Jews are just "special", for some reason. 
 >> 
 >> Yes as I just said; they've been persecuted for at least the last 1000 
 years 
 > 
 > That's (mostly) ancient history, 
  
 Apart from brushing aside the murder of 6 million Jews only 
 60 odd years ago, you've clearly never heard of the Russian 
 Pogroms of the 19th and early 20th Century either 
  
 Or why as a result, the East End of London was populated by so many 
 Jewish people, that that's where Oswald Moseley chose to hold his 
 aborted march 
  
 >  and more than compensated by the murderous behaviour of the state 
 > of Israel since it was created. 
  
 There happens to be a bit of a difference between turning people 
 into refugees; and pushing them into gas chambers. 
  
 >>>   I can understand Germans with their "war guilt", but we've got noting 
 to 
 >>> be ashamed of, 
 >> 
 >> So you're saying that Jews were never persecuted in Britain ? 
 >> 
 >> And that it wasn't a British Foreign Secretary, Arthur Balfour who 
 >> issued a Statement on behalf of the British Government in 1917, 
 >> announcing its support for the establishment of a "National Home 
 >> for the Jewish people"in Palestine, 
 >> 
 >> Which is basically what helped kicked the whole thing off 30 years years 
 >> later; when Britain was still administering Palestine 
 > 
 > Apparently Balfour was (to some extent) motivated by antisemitism and a 
 desire to 
 > remove Jews from Britain, like (some) Germans before WW2. (Palestine was 
 one 
 German 
 > suggestion, together with Madagascar.) 
  
 Well done. It's nice to see that at least some people are paying attention 
  
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 "billy bookcase"  wrote in message news:106oe9p$ 
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 > 
 > Many of whom have regarded Zionism as simply serving the interests of 
 > Anti-Semites who merely wished to rid Europe of its Jews. A "First 
 Solution" 
 > if you like. With the Balfour Declaration simply formalising that ambition 
  
 :unquote 
  
  
  
 >>   > unlike 
 >>> Israelis/Zionists and their supporters/apologists in every synagogue 
 world 
 wide. 
 >> 
 >> What exactly has any of that got to do with anti-semitism ? 
 > 
 > Rabbis could be asked whether they support the murder of Arabs. 
  
 And what exactly has that got to do with anti-semitism ? 
  
 As I suggested before, many Jews are not even practising and so 
 may never have talked to a Rabbi. 
  
 hint: because the first thing the Rabbi would ask them, is why they 
 no longer attended the Synagogue 
  
 And as I also said, Anti-Semites just aren't fussy. They hate all Jews; 
 regardless of whether they know any Rabbis or not. 
  
 Same with the Nazis. It was your grandparents that counted as to whether 
 you ended up being gassed or not. Not whether you knew any Rabbis. 
  
 > 
 >> And the fact that Jews have been persecuted  for over the last 1000 years 
 ? 
 > 
 > History, as I noted above. 
 > 
 >> And an easy target in their role as being Gods Chosen People for every 
 >> Country or individual who simply can't face up to the fact that they've 
 >> been abject failures in life*; and so are thrashing around for somebody 
 >> else to blame. 
 >> 
 >> In a word Anti-Semites 
  
 > I think it would be better if the word "antisemitism" was removed from the 
 English 
 > language. (It's never been clear whether it's based on race, religion or 
 whatever.) 
  
 What isn't very clear, is why this is so important to you, personally 
  
 As it clearly is. 
  
 Because you can rest assured, that anti-semites themselves, are actually 
 "proud" to be called anti-semites. And they'll go on calling themselves 
 anti semites and spraying their swastikas on Jewish graves regardless 
 of what you might think or say. 
  
 And they don't care whether their hatred is based on race or religion 
 or "whatever", either 
  
 > 
 > Maybe people wouldn't be so keen to claim Jewishness. 
  
 While on the other hand, maybe other people shouldn't be so keen to 
 demonstrate all sorts of other things, either. 
  
  
 bb 
  
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