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 On 2025-08-05, Jeff Gaines  wrote: 
 > On 05/08/2025 in message <106sgpv$2c33g$1@dont-email.me> Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 21:14:53 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>On 04/08/2025 10:12 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote: 
 >>>>On 03/08/2025 in message <5996360858.0795274f@uninhabited.net> Roger 
 >>>>Hayter wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>>Yes, why should any one religion have precedence? It would refer to 
 >>>>>>"religion" (to be defined) rather than each specific religion. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>I'm rather confused; what law are you referring to that protects one 
 >>>>>religion more than another? Are you sure they just haven't been any 
 >>>>>attempts to persecute or whip up hatred agains members of most 
 >>>>>religions? Are you sure that a serious threat to persecute or kill 
 >>>>>methodists would not be severely punished in the unlikely event that 
 >>>>>it happened? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>I have pruned this, it's getting a bit long. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>The various laws relating to antisemitism protect the Jewish faith, I 
 >>>>am not aware of anything similar for other faiths. 
 >>> 
 >>>Those laws don't protect the Jewish faith and that isn't the intention. 
 >>> 
 >>>They protect Jewish people. 
 >> 
 >>And it seems we are back at the beginning of a large circle. 
 >> 
 >>Is "Jewish" a designation of the religion a person practices ? Or of some 
 >>sort of geographical origin ? 
 >> 
 >>Can I become Jewish tomorrow (or later today if the barber is open) ? 
 >> 
 >>Would that make me a semite ? Like all the other people from historical 
 >>Judea - including Muslims ? 
 >> 
 >>Can I have my cake and eat it ? 
 >> 
 >>These - and no other questions - are still to be decided. Luckily we now 
 >>have the concept of quantum physics to guide us. We may yet get there. 
 > 
 > This is completely new to me as may have been apparent from my posts. 
 > 
 > I have never been taught that being a Jew reflected anything other than a 
 > religion and "Jewish People" to me is people of the Jewish religion. 
  
 But the membership of the religion is almost entirely defined by your 
 mother being a member of the religion, because they very rarely accept 
 converts. So it's both a religious group and an ethnic group, because 
 there's very little difference between the two in this specific case. 
  
 > If it is something else it throws me back to my original post on this 
 > which, broadly, asked why we had antisemitism laws but nothing similar for 
 > other religions, it now seems I should have been asking why we have 
 > nothing similar for the equivalent of "Jewish People" not for other 
 > religions but for what, other races, nationalities, origins? 
  
 We don't have any laws about Jewish people either (any more), except 
 for the Marriage Act thing I already mentioned. 
  
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