From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 On 4 Aug 2025 at 22:09:13 BST, "Mark Goodge" 
  wrote: 
  
 > On 4 Aug 2025 17:12:51 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 04/08/2025 in message  Mark 
 >> Goodge wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 4 Aug 2025 13:33:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 04/08/2025 in message <79c19k1fq7m0mpsu24ances44fkoij60uo@4ax.com> 
 Mark 
 >>>> Goodge wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On 4 Aug 2025 09:55:09 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 04/08/2025 in message <9994495444.cccd629a@uninhabited.net> Roger 
 >>>>>> Hayter wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> On 4 Aug 2025 at 10:12:59 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""  
 >>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> The various laws relating to antisemitism protect the Jewish faith, 
 I 
 am 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> not aware of anything similar for other faiths. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> I wasn't actually aware of any in this country. I know Germany has 
 >>>>>>> holocaust-denial laws, but I don't think we have? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> That is a surprise to me, what do our antisemitism laws protect then? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Which antisemitism laws are you thinking of? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I have no idea 
 >>> 
 >>> Then what makes you think there are any? 
 >>> 
 >>> (Hint: there aren't) 
 >> 
 >> Just to clarify then, nobody can be charged with antisemitism in England 
 >> because there are no laws against it? 
 > 
 > People can be charged with various racially aggravated offences where the 
 > relevant aggravating factor is antisemitism. But Jews get no greater 
 > protection from that than do Muslims, or black people. 
 > 
 > Mark 
  
 Just for completeness, my understanding of Scottish law is that showing 
 hatred 
 or similar by word or deed to someone with a protected characteristic is of 
 itself a crime, whether or not it would have been a crime to behave or speak 
 that way to or of a person for a reason not connected with a protected 
 characteristic. 
  
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