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 On 17:37  3 Nov 2025, JNugent said: 
 > On 03/11/2025 04:49 pm, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >> On 3 Nov 2025 at 16:20:34 GMT, "Jethro_uk" 
 >>  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> A lot of people fail to realise that criminal damage does not 
 >>> require a de minimis and also does not need any physical evidence 
 >>> to be apparent. 
 >> 
 >>> As folks putting bin bags over speed cameras discovered to their 
 >>> liberty. 
 >> 
 >> On the other hand, criminal damage below a certain figure 
 >> (?10,000GBP) is treated differently and is a much less serious 
 >> offence. And can only be tried summarily. 
 > 
 > "much less serious"? 
 > 
 > Which Section of the relevant Act contains those words? 
 > 
 > Or are they just your view? 
 > 
 > Here's the law's view (as relayed via CoPilot): 
 > 
 > QUOTE: 
 > Under the Criminal Damage Act 1971 in England and Wales, if the value 
 > of the damage is £5,000 or less, the offence is generally triable 
 > only summarily (i.e., in the Magistrates’ Court). 
 > 
 > This threshold applies to standard criminal damage offences not 
 > involving fire and not racially or religiously aggravated. Here's a 
 > breakdown: 
 > 
 > Summary vs. Either-Way Trial: 
 > - Damage ? £5,000: Triable only summarily (Magistrates’ Court), 
 > with a maximum penalty of a Level 4 fine and/or 3 months’ custody. 
 > 
 > - Damage > £5,000: Triable either way (Magistrates’ or Crown 
 > Court), with a maximum of 10 years’ custody if convicted on 
 indictment. 
 > 
 > Exceptions: 
 > 
 > Even if the damage is under £5,000, the offence may still be triable 
 > in the Crown Court if: 
 > - It is racially or religiously aggravated (triable either way, max 
 > 14 years). 
 > - It involves damage to a memorial (as defined in s.22 of the 
 >    Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980), in which case the maximum 
 >    sentence is 10 years regardless of value. 
 > ENDQUOTE 
  
 Apart from considerations of criminal damage, isn't the JSO Stonehenge 
 incident covered by "Intentionally or recklessly causing public 
 nuisance" as defined here: 
  
    Section 78 of Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022: 
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2022/32/section/78 
  
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