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  Msg # 119 of 12850 on ZZUK4448, Friday 8-21-25, 1:02  
  From: RJH  
  To: JNUGENT  
  Subj: Re: Ricky Jones...  
 From: patchmoney@gmx.com 
  
 On 20 Aug 2025 at 14:51:49 BST, JNugent wrote: 
  
 > On 20/08/2025 07:47 AM, RJH wrote: 
 >> On 19 Aug 2025 at 17:17:58 BST, JNugent wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>> FYI, the most successful approaches to recidivism share these features: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> * Focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment 
 >>> 
 >>> What does that mean and what does it involve? 
 >>> 
 >>>> * Extensive educational and vocational programs 
 >>> 
 >>> What does that mean and what does it involve? What is the cost? 
 >>> 
 >>>> * Treating inmates with dignity and respect 
 >>> 
 >>> Fair enough. But only up to a point. 
 >>> 
 >>>> * Smaller prison populations with better staff-to-inmate ratios 
 >>> 
 >>> How? What would be the cost? 
 >>> 
 >>>> * Strong reintegration support upon release 
 >>> 
 >>> What does that mean and what does it involve? And what would it cost? 
 >> 
 >> I'm not sure of your question. Not word meanings, surely? Perhaps what 
 each 
 >> means in practice? 
 > 
 > Distilled: 
 > 
 > What would need to be done (as opposed to just being said)? 
 > 
 > How much more would it cost the taxpayer? 
 >> 
 >> On the matter of cost, the answer is almost always 'less than at present'. 
 Bit 
 >> like decent housing and healthcare, proper investment will generally yield 
 >> huge economic (and social) gains. 
 > 
 > So some people say. 
 >> 
 >> I've provided some links to explain and support each feature upthread. If 
 it's 
 >> word meanings you're after, perhaps start with a dictionary? 
 > 
 > How about continuing with an answer? Because despite my distilling the 
 > question(s) above, the meaning was very clear already. 
  
 That doesn't feel like a good use of my time. I've given you some links to 
 research on the subject. If after you've read around the subject, by all 
 means 
 ask and I'll see if I can answer anything specific. 
 -- 
 Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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