XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: hex@unseen.ac.am 
  
 On 13/07/2019 20:36, Keema's Nan wrote: 
 > On 13 Jul 2019, Norman Wells wrote 
 > (in article ): 
 > 
 >> On 13/07/2019 11:07, Keema's Nan wrote: 
 >>> On 13 Jul 2019, Pamela wrote 
 >>> (in article ): 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 08:40 13 Jul 2019, Ian Jackson 
 >>>> wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> In message<0001HW.22D9288F002BB4A67000018152EF@news.giganews.com>, 
 >>>>> Keema's Nan   writes 
 >>>>>> On 12 Jul 2019, Ian Jackson wrote 
 >>>>>> (in article <+b$nYvBG9OKdFwZ1@brattleho.plus.com>): 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> In message, Pamela 
 >>>>>>>   writes 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Nor should our ambassador be allowed to resign almost immediately 
 >>>>>>>> because that causes considerable damage to Britain's image. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> No. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em 
 >>>>>>> Know when to walk away and know when to run" 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Do you really think Trump would make any kind of decent poker player? 
 If 
 >>>>>> he had a bad hand he would throw a hissy fit, and if anyone beat him, 
 he 
 >>>>>> would stick them on death row for crimes against the president. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Which all goes to prove we should have called his bluff. 
 >> 
 >>>>> No. It's unlikely that Trump will ever say "Let's kiss and make up." 
 >>>>> When his private communications to the UK government were made public, 
 >>>>> Darroch's position became untenable, and his job impossible. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Trump respects those who stand up to him. 
 >> 
 >> Some fights are pointless fighting. This is one. 
 > 
 > You can€€€t prove it, because no one was man enough to stand their ground 
 and 
 > stare the nut-job Trump down. 
 > 
 > And anyway, it wasn€€€t a fight at all. 
  
 You would have made it one, though, totally unnecessarily. 
  
 > It was a deliberate contravention of the OSA. 
  
 The what? 
  
 > The UK buckled at the first hurdle, which is what Tories do. 
  
 The UK has done nothing.  It can't force Darroch to unresign.  It can't 
 force the USA to deal with him. 
  
 It's clear you don't understand the first thing about diplomacy. 
  
 >>> Precisely, and walks all over those who back down. 
 >>> 
 >>> Notice how the sycophants are endlessly repeating the "Darroch's position 
 >>> became untenable, and his job impossible€€€ line, 
 >> 
 >> Which is of course true. 
 > 
 > Or more likely, an example of telling a lie so often it becomes €€€fact". 
  
 It's what Darroch said, and why he resigned.  It's also blatantly obvious. 
  
 >>> which will continue until 
 >>> they realise just how much they have been duped by a power mad nut job. 
 >> 
 >> No, it will continue *forever*, because it is true. 
 > 
 > You can€€€t prove it, because no one was man enough to stand their ground 
 and 
 > stare the nut-job Trump down. 
  
 It's so obviously true, it's for you to disprove it if you can. 
  
 >> Anyway, it was Darroch who decided his position was untenable, and he's 
 >> the person who should know. The UK government wasn't involved in his 
 >> decision, nor was it the government's to make. 
 > 
 > You keep believing that, dear. 
  
 There's no reason to think otherwise, dear heart. 
  
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