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  Msg # 323 of 32054 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 4:51  
  From: OPHELIA  
  To: KEEMA'S NAN  
  Subj: Re: Sovereign State  
 XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: Ophelia@elsinore.invalid 
  
 "Incubus"  wrote in message news:qp9d1l$e68$1@dont-email.me... 
  
 On 2019-10-29, Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 > On 29 Oct 2019, Farmer Giles wrote 
 > (in article<15adnY9Jcf0UuSXAnZ2dnUU78XnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>): 
 > 
 >> On 29/10/2019 11:24, Keema's Nan wrote: 
 >> > On 29 Oct 2019, nightjar wrote 
 >> > (in article): 
 >> > 
 >> > > On 29/10/2019 07:52, Omega wrote: 
 >> > > ... 
 >> > > > If Boris does get his election and came back with the majority he 
 >> > > > envisages then first law he must push is, "No deal is the default 
 >> > > > Leave". Doesn't prohibit us going for a deal mind. He might just 
 >> > > > also 
 >> > > > consider nailing the Fixed Parliamentary Period? 
 >> > > 
 >> > > The only way Boris is going to get an election is first to convince 
 >> > > other parties, none of whom have any reason to trust him, 
 >> > 
 >> > You mean - none of whom have any intention of subjecting themselves to 
 >> > the 
 >> > democratic will of the people - except for a second referendum which 
 >> > they 
 >> > think they can manufacture a form of words to let them win. 
 >> 
 >> And which will also give no immediate danger of them losing their cosy 
 >> little jobs. 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > So much for democracy. 
 >> > 
 >> > > that a no deal 
 >> > > Brexit is completely impossible, even if he gets a majority. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > A Conservative majority is, of course, is far from certain. 
 >> > 
 >> > Not according to the polls, which potential losers always call out as 
 >> > bogus. 
 >> > 
 >> > > While the 
 >> > > median values for voting intentions would give Boris a good working 
 >> > > majority, a hung parliament is still possible within the margins of 
 >> > > error on those figures. 
 >> > 
 >> > You mean taking the extreme highest error for more Labour seats, and 
 >> > the 
 >> > extreme highest error for less Tory seats. 
 >> > 
 >> > > 
 >> > > 
 >> > > There is also a fairly large number of people who are undecided and 
 >> > > who 
 >> > > have the power to completely transform the figures. If they all voted 
 >> > > Labour, for example, there would still be a hung parliament, but with 
 >> > > Labour close enough to rule with help from the LibDems or SNP. 
 >> > 
 >> > Waffle waffle waffle. 
 >> > 
 >> > Let€€€s have €€€the peoples€€€ general election€€€, and let€€€s have it 
 as 
 >> > soon as possible. 
 >> 
 >> If the people back them then they can do what they like - no deal, stay 
 >> in, whatever. Of course they know that they won't. That's their idea of 
 >> democracy. The people's wishes must be carried out - but only when they 
 >> agree with them! 
 > 
 > If the people want to stay in, or have no deal - they can vote for the 
 > party 
 > which campaigns for that policy. 
 > 
 > What is wrong with that? 
 > 
 > Let€€€s have a €€€peoples€€€ election€€€. 
  
 And then, if we get fucked over yet again, maybe we can have a People's 
 Riot. 
  
 === 
  
   lol sounds good to me:))  It has to be the 'Peoples' though!! 
  
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