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  Msg # 31999 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:08  
  From: DAN S. MACABRE  
  To: TUFNELL PARK  
  Subj: Re: Brexit deal almost agreed!  
 XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: no@way.com 
  
 Tufnell Park wrote: 
 > On 15/10/2019 11:13, Incubus wrote: 
 >> On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>> In article <7469qe1jev3q0rv8u1qpt7629h92i91p2k@4ax.com>, 
 >>> €€€€€€ Grik-basstarde€€€€  wrote: 
 >>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 15:49:53 +0100, Tufnell Park 
 >>>>  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>> On 13/10/2019 14:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: 
 >>>>>> In article <58024f426echarles@candehope.me.uk>, 
 >>>>>> €€€€€€€€ charles  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> you people need more realism and more imagination or even 
 >>>>>>>> €€€€€€€€€€ experience in other countries 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> I have, thank you. I've met plenty of very nice Germans.€€ Those who 
 >>>>>>> wanted to "enslave us" were the knuckledraggers> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> It really does say a lot when anyone thinks all from any one country 
 >>>>>> are the same. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Of course not surprising, given brexiteers talk about a vote where 
 >>>>>> approx 1/3rd voted with them being 'the will of the people'. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> By the same logic less than 1/3rd voted to remain. 
 >>> 
 >>>> Indeed. 
 >>> 
 >>>>> You could just as easily argue that those who did not vote did not 
 >>>>> care 
 >>>>> if we left or not. 
 >>> 
 >>>> You have to wonder if some of these people understand the concept of a 
 >>>> majority! 
 >>> 
 >>> Everyone understands that. No need to try and dress it up by calling it 
 >>> the will of the people. Had it been a majority of those entitled to 
 >>> vote, 
 >>> that would be fair comment. 
 >> 
 >> It is still very much the will of the people.€€ Those who didn't bother 
 >> to vote 
 >> simply didn't care all that much and that is reflected in the result. 
 >> 
 > It's typical of Remoaners to claim that those who did not vote in the 
 > 2016 referendum should be classed as Remainers, when it should be 
 > obvious to any reasonable person that the non voters would have views 
 > similar in proportion to the number of those who did bother to vote. 
  
 Unfortunately, reasonableness has gone right out of the metaphorical 
 window :-)  What matters now is getting one's 'narrative' out there, and 
 the truth will become whatever you can make people believe it is. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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