XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: incubus9536612@gmail.com 
  
 On 2019-10-15, Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 > On 15 Oct 2019, Incubus wrote 
 > (in article ): 
 > 
 >> On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >> > In article, 
 >> > Incubus   wrote: 
 >> > > On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >> > > > In article, 
 >> > > > Incubus   wrote: 
 >> > > > > On 2019-10-13, Brian Gaff  wrote: 
 >> > > > > > Groundhog day again then. We have been heare before. Do we 
 really 
 nee 
 >> > > > > > three years of stupidity? I mean, it was the falwed referendum 
 and 
 >> > > > > > all the lies of the campaigners that got us into this mess in 
 the 
 >> > > > > > first place. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > > The only "flaw" with the referendum is that it returned the result 
 you 
 >> > > > > didn't want. You wouldn't be whining about "flaws" and "lies" if 
 the 
 >> > > > > result had been to remain in the EU. You'd have no time for any 
 >> > > > > arguments in favour of a second referendum or ignoring the result 
 then. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Would a vote to remain have stopped Farage and the anti-EU press 
 >> > > > constantly calling for another referendum, then? We know the answer 
 as 
 >> > > > regards Farage, since he said it on live TV. 
 >> > 
 >> > > He said it wouldn't be the end of the matter. He didn't say he and all 
 >> > > his supporters would have tantrums and do their level best to 
 interfere 
 >> > > with the democratic process. Personally, I would have accepted the 
 >> > > result until further information or material change came to light that 
 >> > > justified the issue being reopened. 
 >> > 
 >> > Have you a short memory? After the referendum, we had a general 
 election. 
 >> > With May asking the country for a decent majority to carry out Brexit. 
 And 
 >> > she ended up with no real working majority. And UKIP decimated. 
 >> > 
 >> > Why do you think that was, if 'the will of the people' was a nice clean 
 >> > quick Brexit? 
 >> 
 >> You're an idiot if you think the General Election was only about leaving 
 the 
 >> EU. You're an even worse idiot if you think that a growing distrust for a 
 PM 
 >> who ran with an absolutely terrible manifesto and succeeded in making 
 herself 
 >> look worse as time went on can be framed in terms of "will of the people". 
 > 
 > Plowman is an idiot, and seems to have vanished since it was pointed out to 
 > him that Labour campaigned on accepting the Brexit result; at the 2017 
 > election. 
 > 
 > Accepting the Brexit result now seems to be a step too far for most of 
 their 
 > supporters. 
  
 All the major parties campaigned on a platform where they accepted the 
 result 
 but, as you pointed out, Labour and the Conservative Party would certainly 
 indicate that the "will of the people" was to leave if you are counting 
 votes 
 in that manner. 
  
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