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 From: tims_new_home@yahoo.com 
  
 "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
 news:5803648836dave@davenoise.co.uk... 
 > In article , 
 >   tim...  wrote: 
 >> > And what result would that be? Crashing out or a new deal? That is the 
 >> > problem with a binary choice of in or out. Even more so, given leave 
 >> > promised us a much better deal than being a member would be easy to 
 >> > achieve. 
 > 
 >> If other parties don't like the deal that we are ending up with, then 
 >> they should have engaged with the process in the first place. 
 > 
 > Just like they did with the May deal? At the end? 
  
 but only at the end 
  
 and when they got the concessions that they wanted they realised that as 
 they weren't written in stone into the treaty they couldn't trust whoever 
 came after May to stick to the agreement 
  
 > She wasn't in the least 
 > interested in what others wanted at the beginning of the negotiations. 
  
 ITYF that it was Labour who refused to engage at the beginning 
  
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