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  Msg # 31959 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:08  
  From: JANE BLACK  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Brexit deal almost agreed!  
 XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: jkb675@gmail.com 
  
 "Keema's Nan"  wrote in message 
 news:0001HW.2355DD21000ADC6E7000057F12EF@news.giganews.com... 
 > On 15 Oct 2019, Incubus wrote 
 > (in article ): 
 > 
 >> On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >> > In article, 
 >> > Incubus   wrote: 
 >> > > On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >> > > > In article, 
 >> > > > Incubus   wrote: 
 >> > > > > On 2019-10-13, Brian Gaff  wrote: 
 >> > > > > > Groundhog day again then. We have been heare before. Do we 
 >> > > > > > really nee 
 >> > > > > > three years of stupidity? I mean, it was the falwed referendum 
 >> > > > > > and 
 >> > > > > > all the lies of the campaigners that got us into this mess in 
 >> > > > > > the 
 >> > > > > > first place. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > > The only "flaw" with the referendum is that it returned the 
 >> > > > > result you 
 >> > > > > didn't want. You wouldn't be whining about "flaws" and "lies" if 
 >> > > > > the 
 >> > > > > result had been to remain in the EU. You'd have no time for any 
 >> > > > > arguments in favour of a second referendum or ignoring the result 
 >> > > > > then. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Would a vote to remain have stopped Farage and the anti-EU press 
 >> > > > constantly calling for another referendum, then? We know the answer 
 >> > > > as 
 >> > > > regards Farage, since he said it on live TV. 
 >> > 
 >> > > He said it wouldn't be the end of the matter. He didn't say he and 
 >> > > all 
 >> > > his supporters would have tantrums and do their level best to 
 >> > > interfere 
 >> > > with the democratic process. Personally, I would have accepted the 
 >> > > result until further information or material change came to light 
 >> > > that 
 >> > > justified the issue being reopened. 
 >> > 
 >> > Have you a short memory? After the referendum, we had a general 
 >> > election. 
 >> > With May asking the country for a decent majority to carry out Brexit. 
 >> > And 
 >> > she ended up with no real working majority. And UKIP decimated. 
 >> > 
 >> > Why do you think that was, if 'the will of the people' was a nice clean 
 >> > quick Brexit? 
 >> 
 >> You're an idiot if you think the General Election was only about leaving 
 >> the 
 >> EU. You're an even worse idiot if you think that a growing distrust for a 
 >> PM 
 >> who ran with an absolutely terrible manifesto and succeeded in making 
 >> herself 
 >> look worse as time went on can be framed in terms of "will of the 
 >> people". 
 > 
 > Plowman is an idiot, and seems to have vanished since it was pointed out 
 > to 
 > him that Labour campaigned on accepting the Brexit result; at the 2017 
 > election. 
  
 He mostly just posts in a single burst per day. 
  
 > Accepting the Brexit result now seems to be a step too far for most of 
 > their 
 > supporters. 
  
 That may be because they have far fewer supporters now and 
 those that still support Labour now are more often remainers. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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