XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: dave@davenoise.co.uk 
  
 In article , 
    Incubus  wrote: 
 > On 2019-10-14, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 > > In article , 
 > >    Incubus  wrote: 
 > >> On 2019-10-13, Brian Gaff  wrote: 
 > >> > Groundhog day again then. We have been heare before. Do we really nee 
 > >> > three years of stupidity? I mean, it was the falwed referendum and 
 > >> > all the lies of the campaigners that got us into this mess in the 
 > >> > first place. 
 > > 
 > >> The only "flaw" with the referendum is that it returned the result you 
 > >> didn't want.  You wouldn't be whining about "flaws" and "lies" if the 
 > >> result had been to remain in the EU.  You'd have no time for any 
 > >> arguments in favour of a second referendum or ignoring the result then. 
 > > 
 > > Would a vote to remain have stopped Farage and the anti-EU press 
 > > constantly calling for another referendum, then? We know the answer as 
 > > regards Farage, since he said it on live TV. 
  
 > He said it wouldn't be the end of the matter.  He didn't say he and all 
 > his supporters would have tantrums and do their level best to interfere 
 > with the democratic process.  Personally, I would have accepted the 
 > result until further information or material change came to light that 
 > justified the issue being reopened. 
  
 Have you a short memory? After the referendum, we had a general election. 
 With May asking the country for a decent majority to carry out Brexit. And 
 she ended up with no real working majority. And UKIP decimated. 
  
 Why do you think that was, if 'the will of the people' was a nice clean 
 quick Brexit? 
  
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