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 From: jenningsltd@fastmail.fm 
  
 On 14/10/2019 11:16, Pancho wrote: 
  
 > On 14/10/2019 11:03, Cursitor Doom wrote: 
 >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:34:24 +0000, Incubus wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> The only "flaw" with the referendum is that it returned the result you 
 >>> didn't want.€€ You wouldn't be whining about "flaws" and "lies" if the 
 >>> result had been to remain in the EU.€€ You'd have no time for any 
 >>> arguments in favour of a second referendum or ignoring the result then. 
 >> 
 >> Yeah, just like 1975 all over again and the BIG LIE back then: it was 
 >> just a 'common market' and certainly not a step on the road to a federal 
 >> superstate; oh no, no, heaven forefend. 
 >> 
 > 
 > Forefend - I don't think I have ever seen that word before. I see the 
 > phrase "heaven forfend" is recognised as a standard phrase, but I have 
 > never heard it, always heaven forbid. 
 > 
 > I like a new word, but it doesn't really seem to have enough to offer to 
 > justify using it. 
 > 
 > Where do you come form? 
  
 It's usually expressed as "heavens forfend" and an early use of it may 
 be found in Act 1 of Shakespeare's "Troilus And Cressida". 
  
 I'm sure it was also used by Rumpole in at least one of the stories (but 
 Horace was much given to quoting the classics). 
  
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